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Hey all, someone i know wants some small power and lighting put in his garage. It's a fair sized garage, roughly 10M x 5M.

He is insistant on it being very basic, ie no heavy machinary to be used and he only wants two ceiling roses put up. I told him they aren't the right type of fitting and i would recommend on installing flouro's to which he sighed too expensive. So i said well two cheap bulkhead fittings at the least, (really a min of 3 lights i envisage will be what i go with).

Anyways he only wants 2 double sockets and a possible 3 light fittings installed.

The supply will come from the house which is let out as 3 individual flats, top, middle and bottom flat. It is a 3 phase supply, each flat being on a seperate phase. The flats must be very basic as they each only have a 45A main fused, two way mini CU with a 30A power and 6A light supply.

The way i propose to feed the garage is to rip one of the 2 way CU's out and install a 4 way CU. Take a SWA cable from there out the wall, cleat around the wall, drill into the garage into a 2 way RCD protected CU. The SWA run is no more than 10M long.

As for wiring to lights and sockets, i'm not a fan of twin and earth clipping when i know the cables going to be exposed so would prefer using plastic conduit and singles.

The bloke wants to keep it as cheap as poss but i'd prefer to do a thorough job.

I was thinking of using either 6mm SWA feed, or would 4mm suffice?

I am interested in hearing how other people would carry out this job, am i being ott?
 
sounds OK. 6mm is hardly much more than 4mm, to keep cost down, you could use T/E in the garage, clipped at high level , and use pvc tube for the socket drops. i take it you're taking earth from MET in flat. any extraneous in garage?
 
Hi I assume the 2 way cu that you are thinking of changing is feeding one of the flats, will this mean that the person in that flat will be paying the lanlords elec bill for his garage or am I missing somthing.
 
or is the garage used by one of the tenants?
 
Lol there are many silverfoxes about hence all the different spellings but I fully acknowledge that silva.foxx has been here a lot longer than I and hope he does not mind there being another.
 
Hey all, someone i know wants some small power and lighting put in his garage. It's a fair sized garage, roughly 10M x 5M.

He is insistant on it being very basic, ie no heavy machinary to be used and he only wants two ceiling roses put up. I told him they aren't the right type of fitting and i would recommend on installing flouro's to which he sighed too expensive. So i said well two cheap bulkhead fittings at the least, (really a min of 3 lights i envisage will be what i go with).

Anyways he only wants 2 double sockets and a possible 3 light fittings installed.

The supply will come from the house which is let out as 3 individual flats, top, middle and bottom flat. It is a 3 phase supply, each flat being on a seperate phase. The flats must be very basic as they each only have a 45A main fused, two way mini CU with a 30A power and 6A light supply.

The way i propose to feed the garage is to rip one of the 2 way CU's out and install a 4 way CU. Take a SWA cable from there out the wall, cleat around the wall, drill into the garage into a 2 way RCD protected CU. The SWA run is no more than 10M long.

As for wiring to lights and sockets, i'm not a fan of twin and earth clipping when i know the cables going to be exposed so would prefer using plastic conduit and singles.

The bloke wants to keep it as cheap as poss but i'd prefer to do a thorough job.

I was thinking of using either 6mm SWA feed, or would 4mm suffice?

I am interested in hearing how other people would carry out this job, am i being ott?

you can pick up 5ft fittings for around £10!! he'll be the first to moan that there isn't enough light!!

welcome back to strike it lucky, Al'wight!! lol
 
Lol there are many silverfoxes about hence all the different spellings but I fully acknowledge that silva.foxx has been here a lot longer than I and hope he does not mind there being another.

Welcome to the forum!

Are you a silverfox for your hair's natural highlights too? :thumbs_down:

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I think it would be a good idea to check how much the guy wants to spend and work it from there. Break the costs down to him.


If his car is less than four years old and has a wife 15 years his junior then he can afford it.
If he works in a charity shop and also shops there then get him a generator and a desk lamp.
 
sounds OK. 6mm is hardly much more than 4mm, to keep cost down, you could use T/E in the garage, clipped at high level , and use pvc tube for the socket drops. i take it you're taking earth from MET in flat. any extraneous in garage?

No water/gas copper pipework, built of brick and wood so no need for bonding, thanks for asking though.
 
Hi I assume the 2 way cu that you are thinking of changing is feeding one of the flats, will this mean that the person in that flat will be paying the lanlords elec bill for his garage or am I missing somthing.

I understand this, someone will have to pay for it, for what loads going to be pulled over time i can't see anyone ripping up trees over it, however i know i need to explain this to the landlord, it wouldn't be nice of him to pull a fast one on someone if this is going to be for his own use.
I literally only had a fleeting visit. Work isn't due to start for over a week so i'll be in touch with him before i make a start. He needs to buy some more materials for the job in any case yet.
 
you can pick up 5ft fittings for around £10!! he'll be the first to moan that there isn't enough light!!

welcome back to strike it lucky, Al'wight!! lol

Don't care what folk say about Barrymore, that was a beauty show back in the day, used to make me chuckle.

Really where from? Is that with the impact resistant diffuser though?
 
I think it would be a good idea to check how much the guy wants to spend and work it from there. Break the costs down to him.


If his car is less than four years old and has a wife 15 years his junior then he can afford it.
If he works in a charity shop and also shops there then get him a generator and a desk lamp.

LOL! It'd save me time the latter like.........
 
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