Garden Wiring

[Sparkboy]

Hi all,

Is flex loose on the garden bed a code for failure even if it is protected by RCD?

Thank you.

Sparkboy

 

[MDJ]

Warning, Warning, today is tuesday not friday

 

[Sparkboy]

Warning, Warning, today is tuesday not friday

Well I was going to ask the next question of would it be better to put a internal transformer then drop the voltage to 12v and use 12v spikes with LEDS?

however this might sum up my response better

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[Knobhead]

Why didn't you ask the question in the first place then ***hole.

No and thrice No.

 

[Sparkboy]

Why didn't you ask the question in the first place then ***hole.

No and thrice No.

Lol, This post is now about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike...

You must be on the blob Tony, The point of a forum is help and support members.

The operative word being support!

I do not know the owner or admin here, but I would think they would want threads to make members feel welcome and to promote posting on a forum.

Now imagine a potential electrician was looking for help with garden wiring, he might find this post in googles search engine, he might click on the topic and have a quick read, what will happen?

He will read the post and leave as he won't want to ask a similar question and get flamed by the electrician gods!!!!

OR possibly like you all, he knows everything and what the **** is the point of him even searching!

 

[Pete999]

Don't mean to be condescending in anyway Sparkboy, but really flex left loose on the garden get real mate

 

[MDJ]

Lol, This post is now about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike...

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I disagree it is absolutely hilarious, the Opening Post was one of my all time favorites, this thread should be a sticky in the Comedy section of the site, even a Diyer would find it amusing.

 

[telectrix]

put it another way. as a favour to a valued customer, i fitted him some 12V spike LEDs in his garden. most of the 12V cable was clipped to a low wall. some, however ran on the edge of the lawn. within a week he'd managed to put a spade through it. good job it was only 12V.

 

[Jamesy]

Never leave exposed cables in a garden, especially flex, it looks too much like a branch of a plant once it starts growing moss around it. In my old house the DNO even ran a paper insulated cable which had cut a corner coming up to my main instate. A rose bush which grew around it after a few years needed to be cut. That was scary when I approached it to even think about it..an un-fused line straight to the star delta? I nearly did saw in to it.

 

[Sparkboy]

It was never about would I do it.

It was about if it was protected by RCD would it break the regs.

That is why the second post was about 12v transformers.

I have seen hundreds of outside Spikes with flex on them, with whiska boxes on walls and the flex running short distance to the lights.

 

[telectrix]

if you have to use 240V then it's SWA to daisy chained IP55 adaptable boxes with flex from the box to the light. the boxes should be high enough from the ground so that the flex is well above any growth and visible.

 

[Sparkboy]

So you would have the cable say like a hangwire (zipwire for example from the james bond films) from a box to the spike so that it does not touch the grass/soil/mud.

If over time that broke down or someone moved the spike light closer to the ip55 box, and the wire was loose from that box on the ground would it break the regulations?

Thanks

 

[Jamesy]

I hear you. Not sure if it complies with BS7671 because it states that it doesn't need to be more than 50mm enclosed if protected by an RCD. Good practice and common sense would be to mechanically protect.

 

[Jamesy]

So you would have the cable say like a hangwire (zipwire for example from the james bond films) from a box to the spike so that it does not touch the grass/soil/mud.

If over time that broke down or someone moved the spike light closer to the ip55 box, and the wire was loose from that box on the ground would it break the regulations?

Thanks

Yep , change is inevitable hence we do 5 and 10 year test and inspections.

 

[AA410]

What about a fish pond with a 240v pump or a water feature