Gas Meter earth

[Aok1]

A customers gas meter is in the kitchen approximately 12m away from the Met which is located in the hall.

The suppliers wont change the gas until an earth is present.

I can get a cable to the meter part externally and internally, total cable length 12m, whilst i was there the guy from the supplier seems to think this is not acceptable and the bond needs to be were the pipe comes into the house?

I Thought that bonding conductor should be within 600mm of the service meter on the consumers side or at the point of entry into the building ?

Advice please.

 

[Swicade]

I also thought it was within 600mm of the service meter on consumer side tbh.

Not sure if some of the Gas safe rules have changed but lately i've had quite afew run in with Gas meter/service/maintenance guys about earth cables,fused/switch fused spurs, fuse sizing and cable sizing in the last couple of months. Could be a new influx of 'text book' gas engineers/jobsworths running around......or i'm just wrong in general

 

[Aok1]

I have checked about and it does seem to be within 600mm and on consumer side, my mate who is gas safe seems to agree with me though.

 

[Octopus]

600mm after the meter on the consumer side, before any junctions in the pipework, and importantly "where practical".

Make sense of that!

 

[Moses]

600mm after the meter on the consumer side, before any junctions in the pipework, and importantly "where practical".

Make sense of that!

You r right, 600mm on the consumer side.

I think the gas rules determine, the consumer side to start where the pipe starts on the insde of the wall coming from the meter.

 

[T&Earth]

Hi I understood it was within 600mm of meter or where it enters the building!!


T&E

 

[Octopus]

You r right, 600mm on the consumer side.

I think the gas rules determine, the consumer side to start where the pipe starts on the insde of the wall coming from the meter.

Seen many outside with junctions outside too so the "inside bit" is irrelevent.

 

[Knobhead]

Will you guys keep in mind “where practical”.

You’re not working to gas safe regs but BS7671.

Talk about the tail wagging the dog!

 

[sjm]

I thought the 600mm rule was only for internal meters. Otherwise it's as close as practicable to the point of entry to the property.

 

[Octopus]

Its amazing how many different "interpretations" there are on this thread. BS 7671 needs to be re-written by the plain english society, with more diagrams.

 

[sedgy34]

stick to what your taught the 600mm rule!!! others who try and change things to what they want can do it themselves

 

[Octopus]

I thought the 600mm rule was only for internal meters. Otherwise it's as close as practicable to the point of entry to the property.

So what happens if there is a junction in the gas pipe, close to the meter, a few meters from the entry point to the dwelling then?

 

[Sav]

I had a run in with a gas engineer who said that we have to put 6mm supplementary bonding across the pipes below the combi boiler !!

It was a rewire with upgraded 16mm main earth and 10mm main bonding protective conductors to gas and water.

The customer tried to deduct money from our final price, saying that the engineer advised him that "we have left the pipework at a dangerous level should a fault arise" !!

The only fault I told the customer was getting Laurel and Hardy to install the boiler !!

I explained about not requiring supplementary bonding in line with the regulations, even though we cross bonded the boiler, bath and kitchen sink with 4mm earth (old school lessons I was taught ) and the bond was continuous, unlike the 6mm the gas guy put, which was cut at each clamp !!

Oh well,

Sav

 

[snowhead]

And did the "boiler fitter" fail to notice the steel bracket he fitted which holds the isolation taps for all the pipes and happens to cross bond all the pipes at the same time.

 

[Des 56]

Boilers
I hear those nightmare words echoing again,"Manufacturers instructions"

Of course you are right,that is until the gas guy opens his book and sees an instruction to bond them,you are then trumped

All the classroom instruction and years of design and installation you may have undertaken, has to be thrown aside, because some Japanese scriptwriter who can't speak English like us "tidy"Welsh people ,inserts his drivel

The regs should be amended as soon as,to redress this issue