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there are 197 green deal installers

125 of those are solar pv installers ......

not as if you gonna get solar panels under green deal anyway ....
 
Solar pv installer think it will answer their prayers but the panels will never meet the golden rule with out FITS.

I wonder if you can prove the client is in fuel poverty the will fully fund the solar panels via ECO ?
 
Just been to yet another Green Deal meeting and checked a couple of other links I have. Depressing stuff this morning about the delivery of the programme and the costs added onto the customer bill. Suggestions of £1500 per GDA from social housing providers and even on a really lean system we're looking at the cost of admin, management and GDA of about 1k. Of course this + the interest and all has to be identified on the assessment so the customer completely understands what they are signing up to.

Enact have just announced that they aren't expecting the GDF to be in place before April at the earliest with installations beginning in May 2013. The only way work can be carried out before this is if the customer has their own finance or are taking up ECO.

I reckon this could be the softest start in history!!
 
problem is, some parts of the system are having a much softer start than others.

If your body moves forward faster than your feet when running you end up falling flat on your face........................
 
I went to a similar meeting this week. The delegates were pretty confused about the whole thing. That may have been because the speakers didn't have much of a clue what it was about. It seems that PV is pretty low down the list of measures. The financial arrangements seem to be in complete disarray. Lots of dates were suggested for when this might be resolved but it seemed like people were guessing.
 
We're trying as a group to get some money together to see if there is a market for GD. In theory if we can identify an area, market, do the GDA and then work out what the take up is we'd be able to extrapolate the figures and work out if there's anything worth having a go at.

One of the biggest hurdles (after golden rule, 7% interest, mountains of paperwork etc etc) is priming the market in the first place and identifying key target markets on a very tight budget - no-one I've spoken to has a scooby how to do this. A lot of the bodies that would have done this in the past have either closed down or are so stretched they can't take on the extra work, particularly as it's so complex.

The guy we're talking to and who is meeting with Barking himself shortly (so they can have a photo taken together and Tweet it!!) seems to think that Joe Bloggs the kitchen fitter will suggest Green Deal while he's selling the kitchen and it'll go through the GDA, GDP & GDF and Bob's your uncle the installation has been completed. He's a really nice guy but clearly hasn't any idea how large scale domestic projects like this are run.
 
My felling is that it will primarlily be telemarketed by the usual players - BG, Mark Group, Enact etc, plus picked up with distress buys (boiler replacement etc.

The "hook" that they will be using will be the £1000 cash back .... http://www.decc.gov.uk/assets/decc/...the-green-deal-cashback-for-energy-saving.pdf

The Green Deal Cashback Scheme is a first-come, first-served offer where householders can claim cash back from Government on energy saving improvements like insulation, front doors, windows and boilers. Packages could be worth over £1000 – the more you do, the more you get. Available from 28 January 2013 for households in England and Wales.

So it'll be all the big players piling in on the phones (after all they'll have three months of nothing to do between no and then :) So will have pnet up enthusiasm. Pkus BG will continue their radio and TV adds for it.

As for the SME oppportunity ? - Conservatory people, upselling windows and doors. Boiler repairs upsell.
 

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