Has anybody here actually failed an assessment form a governing body?

[Kiers1970]

Do they ever fail anyone? Some one I knew failed because he did NO prep work, no certs paperwork or anything!
Is there any data on failed applications, and reasons why?

 

[Engineer54]

Seems you know one more person than i do, that failed to get ripped off.... lol!!!

 

[imago]

I see the point you're making, and to an extent I agree with the sentiments. However, you'd have to be one dumb so-and-so to do the trainingg (even in it's most limited form), buy the tools, get the insurance, and then not bother with a few bits of paperwork.

The main reason the vast majority 'pass' is because it's not a test, it's an assessment. That means they look at what you're doing and give advice on any areas that need improvement. I would also think the majority are accepted into the schemes because they make an effort to be compliant.

 

[Engineer54]

I see the point you're making, and to an extent I agree with the sentiments. However, you'd have to be one dumb so-and-so to do the trainingg (even in it's most limited form), buy the tools, get the insurance, and then not bother with a few bits of paperwork.

The main reason the vast majority 'pass' is because it's not a test, it's an assessment. That means they look at what you're doing and give advice on any areas that need improvement. I would also think the majority are accepted into the schemes because they make an effort to be compliant.

One would hope or think so, ...but the truth be known it has everything to do with company profits and investor returns than any noble interpretations by the assessor!!

 

[Dan23584]

You pay the money and your in, seems like the assessment is a formality.

 

[kenny7askew]

i think it depends on who you go with,the other week there was someone on here who passed is elecsa assement and all he did was a Zs test and show is paperwork to pass,i did the nic assesment a couple of weeks ago and to do Ze,Pfc,Pssc,Zs,r1r2,Ir tests, polarity,Rcd tests and loads of questions about each test plus all the paper work and calibration checks ect.maybee some organisations have a more relaxed attitude than others although i do agree its alot to do with money.

 

[Kiers1970]

Seems you know one more person than i do, that failed to get ripped off.... lol!!!

Not really, you pay an upfront fee to the NIC, daft sod he was

 

[Engineer54]

Not really, you pay an upfront fee to the NIC, daft sod he was

My meaning being, ....That you become another ongoing ''Cash Cow'' for that particular scam organisation of your choice...lol!!

 

[i=p/u]

comes down to the accessor aswell, as some peole take pride in their job as everyone of you know and practice lol

 

[roukel01]

My assessor told me he failed the same bloke 4 times.

on my assessments, I do one test a year, a different test each time. And a quick chat about results etc.

Personally I think the assessors realise who the capable ones are and the ones who have areas of weakness, and assess you accordingly. A local bloke I know was made to do a full set of tests (from the same governing body as the one I'm regestered with)

 

[Dan23584]

My assessor told me on my first assessment 'the less you know the longer it takes'.

 

[Engineer54]

Perhaps you better talk to IQ, who knows of one assessor, that was fired for failing/refusing incompetent candidates...

It's the money, the cash cows that these providers are most interested in, that and finding new angles to squeeze that little bit more. ... Everything else is somewhat secondary!!!

 

[Dan23584]

Perhaps you better talk to IQ, who knows of one assessor, that was fired for failing/refusing incompetent candidates...

It's the money, the cash cows that these providers are most interested in, that and finding new angles to squeeze that little bit more. ... Everything else is somewhat secondary!!!

That just sums it up then really. Its a shame.

 

[alanl]

I failed my first assessment with Elecsa.
Made a right mess when asked about the Building regs, I went to jelly and couldnt even find the page in the OSG.
Then asked to do a Zs test, and tripped the RCD as I had the meter on the wrong setting.
Picked up a couple of minor points on my installs, but otherwise, was told needed to brush up on my testing - it wasnt my testing at fault, it was 'exam' nerves, as it was something I could generally do really easily, but at the time my brain went to mush!
Second assessment a month later went fine, with nothing brought up at all.

Alan.