Hello everybody

[Revolver Ocelot]

Hi,

I'm Andre, I've over 13 years experience as electrician in my country ...
I just move from Italy 6 month ago to follow my wife in her work and after that I've discovered that my educational qualification is not valid in UK and then I've started an electrical course for gain the right title ....

I read only 65 pages of my first "college" book and I found a lot of difference, some little as the socket distribution (in UK I read is usually a ring with a 30A MBC, in Italy we use a radial distribution with a 16A MCB with the same wire cross-section) other really important like in UK the contractors electrical supply in domestic environments is provided with the neutral "on earth" (TN-C system) instead in Italy is mandatory a indipendent earth system (TT system) and this sometimes is really a nail in the head.

I'm just looking the forum for some advice about the right way to start an electrician career but if I can I' m pleased to help.

Sorry for my English, I'm trying to improve it.

 

[Marvo]

Welcome to the forum Andre and your English is better than many on this forum What course have you started?

 

[Paul.M]

Welcome Mr Ocelot. I like this chap already, look forward to a lot of interesting questions.

 

[Barry White]

Welcome Andre Hope you find the help you need

 

[MikeL1]

Maybe sounding a bit negative but is there not enough sparks struggling for work and we are still getting foreigners arriving in UK looking for employment.
Apologise if this post sounds racist.

 

[Pete999]

:welcome2:

 

[Darkwood]

Maybe sounding a bit negative but is there not enough sparks struggling for work and we are still getting foreigners arriving in UK looking for employment.
Apologise if this post sounds racist.

How is it racist?...

What it is, is Xenophobic, we are in the EU and by definition any EU member has the right to seek employment in any EU country, the trade climate varies dependent on where you are, so some area's have a shortage while other areas have too many. I would hope the OP has done his homework and researched the Job climate in the area he is in before moving here and training up.
Please be careful how you word your posts to avoid them been taken as offensive, a simple post about there been a shortage of work and many Electricians struggling would have made the same point without possibility of been taken the wrong way.

 

[Marvo]

Maybe sounding a bit negative but is there not enough sparks struggling for work and we are still getting foreigners arriving in UK looking for employment.
Apologise if this post sounds racist.

Probably not racist but certainly a very curious statement.

If a tradesman gets qualified in Bradford and works in Leeds, would that be okay? How about if he started working in another county, say London? What about a Scottish qualified guy working in England or Ireland? How about Gibraltar? How about on contract in Saudi or Afganistan? I'm just wondering where the acceptable line is that tradesman shouldn't cross before he's stealing the jobs of the locals?

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

@ MikeL1
I understand your point of view because I saw it in your side too...
(I fortunately had always a job before,but we have the same type of "situation")
I do not know the UK market but I think that in this kind of job, if you work hard,professionally and smartly becomes difficult to stay out of work.
Mainly because you can give a lot of quality at your electrical works, everybody can do this job but only few people do it well and in the right way and the bosses/costumers know this.
The important thing is to keep up the same level, same price and same tax for all.
I understand too that this is an issue between UK citizen and Cameron.


@ Marvo
My plan is :

- City and Guilds 2365 level 2 (with the unit 201/501 Healt and Safety I think I can apply for a CSCS card in case I'll looking for an addictional course toward that)
- City and Guilds 2382 (17° IET Wiring Regulation)

With the stuff above I wish I can apply for some work as electrician mate ... then after calmly:
- City and Guilds 2365 level 3

In the end:
- NVQ assessment when employed
- AM2 assessment when employed
- apply for ECS card

In the course I have found they release too:
- Part P Full Scope
- C&G 2392
- C&G 2394
- C&G 2395

Is it the right way ?

 

[telectrix]

@ MikeL1
I understand your point of view because I saw it in your side too...
(I fortunately had always a job before,but we have the same type of "situation")
I do not know the UK market but I think that in this kind of job, if you work hard,professionally and smartly becomes difficult to stay out of work.
Mainly because you can give a lot of quality at your electrical works, everybody can do this job but only few people do it well and in the right way and the bosses/costumers know this.
The important thing is to keep up the same level, same price and same tax for all.
I understand too that this is an issue between UK citizen and Cameron.


@ Marvo
My plan is :

- City and Guilds 2365 level 2 (with the unit 201/501 Healt and Safety I think I can apply for a CSCS card in case I'll looking for an addictional course toward that)
- City and Guilds 2382 (17° IET Wiring Regulation)

With the stuff above I wish I can apply for some work as electrician mate ... then after calmly:
- City and Guilds 2365 level 3

In the end:
- NVQ assessment when employed
- AM2 assessment when employed
- apply for ECS card

In the course I have found they release too:
- Part P Full Scope
- C&G 2392
- C&G 2394
- C&G 2395

Is it the right way ?

looks about right. speak to a local college and see if you can get straight on to 2365 level 3 . 2394/5 are testing qualifications and generally done after the 2365 and nvq.

 

[Marvo]

.......@ Marvo
My plan is :..........

Sorry Andre, I can't advise you. I'm not in the UK and I'm not familiar with the UK qualifications I'm afraid :dizzy2:. Hopefully the other members can help you out.