Hello, where do I begin avice require please

[adversecamber]

Hello all.
Great forum, lots of good honest information.

I need some advice please.

I am an apprentice trained industrial maintenance engineer of 20 years and have slowly "evolved" into an on the road service engineer.
I am now doing mostly electrical/electronic breakdown repair and instalations on all sorts of industrial machinery.

Although not "technically" an electrician, I am pretty competent and know what I am doing around big and little wires .

I am thinking of starting a Domestic handyman/ Kitchen fitter type small buisiness up, but I am aware that I wont be allowed to do the electrical work legally without some type of paperwork, (part P ?)

Do you think its worth me doing one of the fasttrack courses to get certified and will that mean I can pass off my own work?

Or is there more regulation that I need to know about.
Is it worth getting this paperwork when only a small percentage of my jobs will actually be electrical.

Or is there a certain level of wiring I can do without certification? (like for like replacements and so on)

I am not interested in full house rewires and such, I just want to be able to add or move sockets/ light around legally.

Sorry about the long first post...

 

[Dan]

Welcome to Electricians Forum | Electrical Advice Forum | An electrical forum for electricians in the UK!

Welcome to electriciansforums.net adversecamber. Thanks for introducing yourself.

 

[Guest123]

Welcome along.

Part P is a minefield at best, search around the forums, lots of info about going solo and scheme providers etc.

Best of luck.

 

[acat]

Hi and welcome pleased you joined us


Chris

 

[T&Earth]

Hello all.
Great forum, lots of good honest information.

I need some advice please.

I am an apprentice trained industrial maintenance engineer of 20 years and have slowly "evolved" into an on the road service engineer.
I am now doing mostly electrical/electronic breakdown repair and instalations on all sorts of industrial machinery.

Although not "technically" an electrician, I am pretty competent and know what I am doing around big and little wires .

I am thinking of starting a Domestic handyman/ Kitchen fitter type small buisiness up, but I am aware that I wont be allowed to do the electrical work legally without some type of paperwork, (part P ?)

Do you think its worth me doing one of the fasttrack courses to get certified and will that mean I can pass off my own work?

Or is there more regulation that I need to know about.
Is it worth getting this paperwork when only a small percentage of my jobs will actually be electrical.

Or is there a certain level of wiring I can do without certification? (like for like replacements and so on)

I am not interested in full house rewires and such, I just want to be able to add or move sockets/ light around legally.

Sorry about the long first post...

Hi Adversecamber

I started off being a handyman whilst I put myself through college to do plumbing & electrical qualification. The handyman side gave me a good start plenty of customers, but there is a limit to what you can charge putting up curtain polls and repairing sheds. I have found its only the electrical / plumbing work that I can charge a reasonable amount. Hope this helps

 

[Sintra]

Hi & welcome.

 

[kung]

Hello and welcome also.

 

[Phil]

welcome

 

[pbrender]

Morning,
There are many options available to you!

Possibly the most suited to you would be the 17th edition building regs course this purly covers the regulations within about 3 days you then have a day to digest and the following day you sit a 60 question open book exam!

You could then do a part p course I believe they take a few days and these cover testing and forms etc.

These do not cover any type of wiring,calculations,design,enviroments etc, they are purly designed for people like kittchen fitters etc in mind.

Obviously nothing takes the place of the proper qualification which takes time and experience, but, these schemes are out there! once you have done the courses you would need to register with one of the bodies these allow part or full scope schemes,you would have to decide which is more relevant probably part scope if you are only doing kitchen fitting.

if you are already qualified to the 17th then you do not need the courses mentioned bellow and just need to submit your qualifications to one of the bodies for a full scope scheme.

Obviously I can not guarantee all the information is correct , I have not done the 17th edition or part p short courses,but, know they are about!

Hope this helps!

Paul

 

[electrician4u]

unfortunately, as soon as you add a socket to a circuit, and in particular in a kitchen you're gonna have to be Part P registered. I believe that you can join a governing body which restricts the electrical work to what you will be doing but i forget the details. i'm sure someone else will know

 

[malcolmsanford]

Good advice lads, but the OP may already be trading and got his qualifications

 

[pbrender]

cheers!

Must confess after I wrote it I looked up and saw feb 2010 doh!

but might help someone else browsing!

 

[adversecamber]

Thanks for the replies lads.

Just to update you I have done NOTHING at all about anything since i asked the question back in Feb 2010.

I am still working as a service engineer and am STILL thinking about going self employed.

Anyone know where I can get a "kick up the bum" course.

 

[brucelee]

Hi mate welcome to the forum i need one of those also lol