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Hi all, I'm just finishing my 2396 design project and I've just got to the pv bit. The lecturer didn't spend any time it all so I'm a bit lost. All it has to be is for a 10kw per phase arrangement on top of a factory. Nothing fancy at all. I'd really appreciate any help offered.

Thanks in advance. Giles.
 
Thanks RB, that'll be quite useful for references.
I was after a little more help in the actual design side of it, ie, how many panels per string, how many strings to an inverter. I suppose most people are out enjoying the sun at the moment rather than being on a computer talking about how to harness its resources!!!
 
18-24 panels per string, 120 x 250wp panels, so 6 x 20 panel strings, or 5 x 24 panel strings though 24 panels is often pushing the limit on the 1000V max Voc of the inverters.

3 phase 30 kW inverter, or more likely power-one Trio 27.4 STW with string level fuses and surge protection, or 2 x 15kW inverters.

AC cable drop needs to be under 1% at full power.

what you really need to do though is to download SMA sunny design and spend some time using that to configure the project, then just print out the pdf from that and hand it in.

Now, to actually optimise a system that's delivering 30kW AC, you'd want something more like 36kWp of panels, maybe more, but then you'd fall foul of the 30kWp limit beyond which you need to install costly export meters, and lose the automatic deemed 50% export rate, so it usually works out best to just stick with 30kWp of panels and keep the 50% deemed export payments as the factory is likely to be using more like 80-90% of the power, so gains financially from that arrangement.

ps the linked guide is out of date, you need version 3 on the MCS website.
 
18-24 panels per string, 120 x 250wp panels, so 6 x 20 panel strings, or 5 x 24 panel strings though 24 panels is often pushing the limit on the 1000V max Voc of the inverters.

3 phase 30 kW inverter, or more likely power-one Trio 27.4 STW with string level fuses and surge protection, or 2 x 15kW inverters.

AC cable drop needs to be under 1% at full power.

what you really need to do though is to download SMA sunny design and spend some time using that to configure the project, then just print out the pdf from that and hand it in.

Now, to actually optimise a system that's delivering 30kW AC, you'd want something more like 36kWp of panels, maybe more, but then you'd fall foul of the 30kWp limit beyond which you need to install costly export meters, and lose the automatic deemed 50% export rate, so it usually works out best to just stick with 30kWp of panels and keep the 50% deemed export payments as the factory is likely to be using more like 80-90% of the power, so gains financially from that arrangement.

ps the linked guide is out of date, you need version 3 on the MCS website.

Cheers mate that's really helpful. I'll give all that a go and see how I get on.

Giles.
 
from memory when i did mine:
used on line software to do alot of the sums for panel/string/inverter selection and layout
as mentioned above 1% VD
specified mounting system
allowed for walkways for safe access
what protection using and why G83/59
bonding implications
limitations, unknown shading ect.
 
Try the SMA Sunny Design Software (foc download)
though you've still got to know what you're doing :)
 
If you use two inverters, each one will need a seperate breaker so you need a dedicated Solar PV DB, In addition you need a 4 pole rotary isolator adjacent to EACH inverter to allow for maintenance, - the other side of the meter / new solar pv db - though see below

You'd be better off using an single SMA STP10000TL It would be
a) Less cost of materials
b) Less labour cost to install
c) Needs less space

Before you decided wether it needs a 10000TL, would need to do an analysis using the SMA Sunny design tool inputting orientation and elevation, as you may find the 8000TL is a better match.
 
Hi Giles,

I hope you have got the help you need with the PV design. It is quite straight forward and easy. It will take about 5 minutes to do the complete design. Preparing the needed paperwork and test criteria will take about 1 hour dependant on how good you are with simple cad packages.

As said above the SMA Solar software will allow you to create a design to any specification and calculate the most efficient. You then need to source the data sheets and draw the system layout. This is better done using something like the Seaward Solar Software.

Doing the rest of the project is much more arduous. I will swop you jobs designing and drawing the electrical installation for the PV system anyday.

All the best with you project.:21:
 

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