house re-wire

[bonio78]

hi all, i am training to become an electrician on the 2330 course, was going ask my tutor last night but college was cancalled, so thought i would ask on here.
i would like to re-wire my house, if i do this and then get a qualified spaky in for inspection and testing would this be ok?
thanks

 

[marksparky]

not really as this would require an installation certificate and as the other sparky wasn't responsible for design and installation the best he could do is a periodic

 

[bonio78]

would a periodic test be enough?

 

[Davey101]

I dont understand not being able to sign off other peoples work. Surely on the verification page, the installer signs the design and construction section, and the bloke testing it signs the inspection and testing box?

If you cant test others work, what is the point in having more than one box?

I would ask your local council/building control.
Failing that, find a friendly sparky who wills sign it off for you.

 

[baldsparkies]

would a periodic test be enough?

Depends on your LABC. Most will accept a good PIR from a registered electrician, however the electrician can't sign your work off under part P,only his own.

 

[fuse]

I dont understand not being able to sign off other peoples work. Surely on the verification page, the installer signs the design and construction section, and the bloke testing it signs the inspection and testing box?

If you cant test others work, what is the point in having more than one box?

I would ask your local council/building control.
Failing that, find a friendly sparky who wills sign it off for you.

Good point that one but maybe its to show that the same organisation has done all 3

 

[baldsparkies]

I dont understand not being able to sign off other peoples work. Surely on the verification page, the installer signs the design and construction section, and the bloke testing it signs the inspection and testing box?

If you cant test others work, what is the point in having more than one box?

I would ask your local council/building control.
Failing that, find a friendly sparky who wills sign it off for you.

Domestic installation certs differ in format to the commercial so you only have the one for all verification box. You sign for design install and inspection and testing. Your signature your responsibility.

 

[bonio78]

would a qualified sparky take responsibility for my work, probably not, i think i might wait till im qualified, thanks for all your posts

 

[Davey101]

Domestic installation certs differ in format to the commercial so you only have the one for all verification box. You sign for design install and inspection and testing. Your signature your responsibility.

Ah. Could you not do a 'proper' one then? Dont know much about part P stuff.

 

[baldsparkies]

Ah. Could you not do a 'proper' one then? Dont know much about part P stuff.

Both certs are proper Davey,
Its the domestic stuff that requires part P.
When covering larger installs to a commercial spec its a different ball game.
You may be the installer someone else covers the inspection and testing, and an electrical consulting company along with architects responsible for design and or verification. Because all parties have to prove competance and are deemed trade proffessionals, Mr DIY ain't likely to get involved. Part P is a government attempt at stopping Mr DIY having a go and being held accountable and responsible for calling in a trade proffessional. Well thats the theory.

 

[ian.settle1]

I dont understand not being able to sign off other peoples work. Surely on the verification page, the installer signs the design and construction section, and the bloke testing it signs the inspection and testing box?

If you cant test others work, what is the point in having more than one box?

I would ask your local council/building control.
Failing that, find a friendly sparky who wills sign it off for you.

I have heard it is the scheme people like NICEIC who say you can not sign off someone elses work, trying to make people get their registrees get the work.

 

[Guest123]

It's also in Approved Document P of the building regs, something along the lines of...

"only the person responsible for the construction of the installation may sign the electrical installation certificate".

 

[Davey101]

What happens when the council sends a spark round to test an installation wired by someone who isnt part p registered?
I've just had to pay £50 to get my work tested. I had to provide details of my qualifications. If I wasnt qualified, I had to pay approx £150 (iirc). How is this any different than the op's situation?

P.S definatley not saying I'm right, just trying to understand all this part p nonsense

Cheers, Dave.

Both certs are proper Davey,
.

Lol, was only joking mate.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Why not find a local Part P sparky who could inspect your first fix, second fix and testing, for a modest fee. If you were in my area i would do it, i've done a few in my area, even DIY installs. All it takes is for all the cable runs and backboxes to be accessible for inspection. however i do charge even if the work is not up to spec, and then charge again for another revisit.

Cheers.........Howard