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millwall ken

Hi all,
Right missus and kids asleep, bloody man-hating cat out, dog asleep on my side of the bed, and even the baby's hampster is quite. So peace and quite.

Okay, I'm interested in members stories into how and why they became sparkies. For the most part I'd say that most of us just fell into it as opposed to it being your career choice at school. Anyone wanna start us off?
 
I’ve always played around with electrical things, i.e. stereo equipment, and just fell in to sparking first job Surrey docks, Down Town, around by what is now, Bacons school, I say this as me thinks Millwall Ken might know the location started as a mate age 15, 1985, and have gone on from then. I never got to go to college untill about 2001 to get certs, from the on 2360 1/2, 2380/2382/2377/2391/EAL domestic installers. But still no NVQ3 just made a down payment on that. lol
I thought i could get me boy in to sparking, i use to bring him out on jobs with me, i would tell him what cable i wanted him to pull, and always the wrong one he was pulling, then i found out yes you have it, he is F*****g colour blind what a blow. he is doing bizz studies now.
 
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I had always been interested in electrics and the day I got my GCSE results my dad was talking to the best local spark and asked him would he take me on to do my apprentiship. He said he would give me a 3 month trial. I worked for him for 10 years before chancing it on my own 4 years ago. We still work together from time to time.
 
I’ve always played around with electrical things, i.e. stereo equipment, and just fell in to sparking first job Surrey docks, Down Town, around by what is now, Bacons school, I say this as me thinks Millwall Ken might know the location started as a mate age 15, 1985, and have gone on from then. I never got to go to college untill about 2001 to get certs, from the on 2360 1/2, 2380/2382/2377/2391/EAL domestic installers. But still no NVQ3 just made a down payment on that. lol

i can see a cockney love in coming...:thinking:
 
Grandad was a spark. Dad was a spark. I was forced into it when he waved money under my nose when I was 15. Little did I know the to$$er was just trying to avoid paying my mum the child support. Mum and I used to walk 2 miles to tesco at 7.30pm when all the bakery food was reduced so we could buy bread for 10p and stock up the freezer with 10p loaves. Mum wanted me to stay through six'th form, I was a top student. But I just wanted to start making our lives easier and start supporting her. (I still am 15 years later).
I took to the trade fairly well. I'm know teaching it nearly full time. But nearly every day I think about how my life could have gone if it wasn't for my old man. I did the retained fire service for a while, to try something new but I wanted something more mentally challenging. I've studied law for a few years, and am in the middle of working towards a degree. I've considered the HNC or even HND in sparking but I've studied the context and it doesn't attract me towards it as anything interesting.
I'm a Dad myself just recently, got a boy of my own. People assume he'll end up as an electrician as well but I hope not. Obviously I cant make decisions like that for him, but I can make sure that he has the freedom to choose to stay on academically.
 
Back when i was 16 i had just finished my exams at school and was looking forward to a long summer break when my old man handed me a list with phone numbers on it and said get a job. At this stage i just wanted to be a lay about and hadn't got a clue about what i wanted to do.
So ended up after a couple of thick ears for arguing my case making the call.
First one i rang was a sparking company and i started work with them the next day.
 
Well ive been a plumbers merchant,milkman,computer installer,tv/satellite installer,trainee plumber,audio visual installer,alarm installer,courier,and finally decided to do as my dad said in 2001 started the electrics courses(he is sparks too),i was never really interested before then,i had a copy of the 16th edition given by my pops back in 1992,it scared me to death,at 16/17 years old just wanted to get any job to pay for beer and wild weekends.i got here in the end though lol
 
theres only one united..newcastle united..:yesnod:

Many a good night I've had up there. Funnily enough, one of the missus' mates is married to a Geordie (fellow sparkie, as well), and they are moving up there at the end of the month.

PS: Just what do they put in the water up your manor?
 
i wrote to about 100 employers when i was 15 errrr 25 yrs ago and gained a apprenticeship after various interviews and tests etc
then gave it up like a idiot
returned 2 years later doing new build with a electrical contaractors and been involved on and off ever since
in last few years been trying to gain the qualifications i should have gained all those yrs ago
 
Grandad was a spark. Dad was a spark. I was forced into it when he waved money under my nose when I was 15. Little did I know the to$$er was just trying to avoid paying my mum the child support. Mum and I used to walk 2 miles to tesco at 7.30pm when all the bakery food was reduced so we could buy bread for 10p and stock up the freezer with 10p loaves. Mum wanted me to stay through six'th form, I was a top student. But I just wanted to start making our lives easier and start supporting her. (I still am 15 years later).
I took to the trade fairly well. I'm know teaching it nearly full time. But nearly every day I think about how my life could have gone if it wasn't for my old man. I did the retained fire service for a while, to try something new but I wanted something more mentally challenging. I've studied law for a few years, and am in the middle of working towards a degree. I've considered the HNC or even HND in sparking but I've studied the context and it doesn't attract me towards it as anything interesting.
I'm a Dad myself just recently, got a boy of my own. People assume he'll end up as an electrician as well but I hope not. Obviously I cant make decisions like that for him, but I can make sure that he has the freedom to choose to stay on academically.

Top bloke mate.
 
Dad asked me what i wanted to do when i left school...i didnt have a clue, for some reason i ended up in the RAF careers office 3 months before leaving. I sat some sort of idiot test, and surprising to all it confirmed that i was fairly intelligent. So this sergeant careers bloke showed me a list of trades etc available, and asked me if owt took my fancy. So i replied "Pilot".Ok we will start again, you cant be aircrew, no A levels, right then Dog Handler sounds OK. No sorry you are too clever to be a dog handler. Well what can i do then, so he covered up what i couldnt do, this left a load of technical jobs, i picked aircraft electrician, got the job in 1978, the rest is history.

Cheers.............Howard
 
Back when i was 16 i had just finished my exams at school and was looking forward to a long summer break when my old man handed me a list with phone numbers on it and said get a job. At this stage i just wanted to be a lay about and hadn't got a clue about what i wanted to do.
So ended up after a couple of thick ears for arguing my case making the call.
First one i rang was a sparking company and i started work with them the next day.

I was expected to follow the family tradition into the Army, however like an immature little so and so, I rebelled against my dad (who spent 22 yrs in the Army), and my (school teacher) mum. Indeed it was my mother's strong Ulster Protestant work ethic that drove me crazy.
So I kindly repayed them for all of their love and support by being the worse son in the world. Drugs, drink, constantly having the peelers after me. I'd say that I was a large part responsible for them getting divorced. I bummed around from gang to gang, but then even I realised that if you want money then you have to go out to work - fortunately, I never followed some of my pals and went into robbing people; God that would of killed my mum.
So I went from job to job, a few days here, a few weeks there. However I started drinking with a bloke who was an electrician's apprentice; and he got me a start with his firm. I realized that I enjoyed the friendly banter and way of life on site, so I thought why not.
 
I fancied being an electrician since I was very young, but I was never really introduced to the idea of an apprenticeship - where I grew up the universally accepted idea was you did GCSEs, A Levels (NOT GNVQs) then went to university to do a degree, and finally walked into a well paid job. I was even discouraged from doing it - "do you want to get kicked out of school and go and work on a building site? Is that what you want?"

I didn't have the money for university, applied to the MEB and a few other companies for an apprenticeship (which I didn't get), applied to college to do my tech cert (but didn't get in) so I carried on working in pubs until I was 21, then moved down south and got a 'good job' in a call centre.
I got sick and tired of that when I was about 25 and applied to college again. Was amazed when I got in, called and/or wrote to all the companies, then got some agency work when I was in the second year.
 
I did most of an apprentership but because of the clown I had to work with and the way he treated the young ones I walked before it was completed. he was a real old alkie. miserable old piece until dinner time and then as a newt afterwards. he used to threaten the other lads and would pin them against the wall if they looked at him funny. he decided he would do it to me one day and told one of the other lads he was going to wall me up. Being 18 and a div I told him in some certain words what I was going to do to him if he came anywhere near me. needless to say he backed off and I thought that was that tbh. that was until I got called into the gaffers office and told I was to sign a written warning for gross misconduct. I was told I could not speak or threaten a senior member of staff in such a way and he would not hear my side of things even though he knew the guy had smacked the other lads around.

needless to say I didn`t sign his piece of paper and I asked for a different type ie the p45 and told them to stick the job. I don`t think Mick was to quick afterwards to mistreat the other lads after that.

afterwards I was always in work but never really felt as though i was in the right one. I managed to get back into college whilst taxy`ing and then got taken on by a guy I was introduced to doing pubs nightclubs and offices all over the country. In between doing some house bashing for my sins :D

right now I am working on my future by doing the degree. would I have done things different? hell yes :D I would have done it all a lot sooner and gone to another company to finish the apprentership.
 
ui joined the army when i was 16, and asked to be a plumber in the royal engineers. they had no space for plumbers, so i decided on electrician instead. i left the army in 2007, with no qualifications, but i had nearly completed the army's version of the 236. nothing on paper though. i got work as a sparks mate, and decided to join a local water featrure firm, and i took all of my exams and NVQ. they thought i was being disloyal when i left, even thouigh i paid for everything myself, and they wouldnt give me more money when i qualified. i do enjoy my job most of the time though1
 
started life as a call centre operator at what was Yorkshire Electricity (based in Durham under the npower name) i was 17/18 and that lasted 9 months before i got bored talking technical and joined the navy as a marine engineer. after completing what was mainly a mechanical apprentichip with a little bit of electrics i was happy. however after 3 years of doing that i placed trust in a senior sparky on board and he confirmed he isolated a feed to a 3phase starter panel...! after i blew my self up across 2 phases while working on a pump bowl in the bilge of the boat i decided to A) bring down the incompetent spark B) learn electrics to allow me to do ALL isolation's both mechanical and electrical my self and also be able to complete jobs quicker and easier..! so after 3 months of pestering my boss i was transferred to the electrical section and picked it up pretty quickly while doing External Electrical Accreditation to go alongside my experience.

3 years doing that on board and then off to London MOD HQ as a Electrical Biased Engineer in the Plant Room of a Top Secret and Secure Facility underground on Whitehall finally nailed the coffin and i completed ALL the remaining qualifications

since leaving the navy all i had to fear was confidence and best practice of getting it right first time with little mess (oh and getting the price right)
 
Just stumbled across it while looking for the yellow brick road ! wanted to be a hypnotist but i was crap at that and after years of practice it still dont work with customers ! dammm double dammmm ! oh yer back on subject sounds like same as most ! worked with me dad from a young age went to collage and here i am poorer than a plasterer with minimal to pay for and no updates etc !
 
I Didnt do very well at skool in turn ended up stood next to the mixer from 7am onwards.
Noticed the sparky used to turn up at 9-9.30 big baked bean stain down his nice clean top, Noticed he disappeared at 3 ish "To get some more cable" and would reappear the same time the next day. Always had a nice shiney van and tales of holidays some where nice.
Id like to point out this was about 20 yrs ago.
Man did i miss the boat :(
 
I left school with my A levels and went on to study Geography in uni. Dropped out of that after my second year (I din't really want to do it in the first place). I worked in a supermarket on a manger training course then moved in to sales. I spent a lot of time on the road and generally sales is a solitary life, giving you too much time to think and I didn't like the direction my life was going in. I've always liked hands on work and knew a trade was the right direction to go in. I started by labouring on weekends for any spark that would let me. Some for free, some who paid me. I studied in the evenings and then finally jacked in my sales job and started working as an apprentice/electricians mate. I now work for myself mainly doing domestic and light commercial work. If I had my time over again, I would have liked to have done an apprenticeship covering a wider range of work i.e. industrial and heavy commercial along with the domestic stuff.

I'm happy now though and glad I didn't go down the plumbing route. Imagine strangling turds all day. No thanks.
 
My father who had been a factory hand all his working life decided his sons were to have a trade. Brother who was nine years older than me became an electrical apprentice in the factory father worked at. He got me interested in anything electrical, I helped him rewire mum and dad’s house. When I was about 9 he brought some old 230V relays and PB’s home and set up a board for me to play with. After a couple of belts off my new toy I learnt to respect electricity. At nine years old I could set up sequence control.
Once I finished my 4[SUP]th[/SUP] year at secondary modern school I too applied for apprenticeships but only to the big companies in the area. All the application forms had a section “choice of trade”, all had electrician written in and a line through other choices. Went for two interviews, one where brother and father worked, the other a major chemical company. The first interview didn’t go to well as I wasn’t keen to work with the family looking over my shoulder. The other went brilliantly until near the end and they said they only had mechanical vacancies that year, I lost the plot with them, accused them of wasting my time! A year later I was interviewed again and before I sat down the chairman of the panel said “it’s OK we’ve got one this year”. I think I made an impression the first time. There then followed one of the best apprenticeships you could wish for. I was the first apprentice in the company to finish the EITB J02-J22 while still an apprentice, I also got my C&G electrical technicians.
Now 39 years down the line from starting, I’m on the physical scrap heap, who’s going to employ someone taking 14 painkillers a day?
 
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Went to School, GCSEs (did fairly well, no A grades though), then did A levels - but only got 2 of the 3 I did.
Both times, the more technical subjects got me the highest grades, but that's because I enjoyed them the most and therefore put more effort in to them. Funny that. One of the GCSE subjects was a Split one with DT and Electronics. Loved that

Went to Uni as it was the "Done Thing" and I was hauled in by the idea of getting a higher paying job. Did degree in Computer Science, got a 3rd because I'm not a "programmer".

The idea of a "Trade" was never identified but that might be the education system. Just was not something I thought of.

When I finished Uni, I worked for a Horticultural Technical Sales company as a stores lad, but I got to work with the resident sparky building panels and working in glass houses installing lighting and running cables etc.
My manager also let me help him do some first fix in his house when he had half of it re-built. That was interesting and I almost got to go to college via them to do electrical courses.

I was also interested in Sound Engineering and Live Event Production in my spare time. Which inevitably got me in to stage lighting too. With this came the need to have some nice large power supply cables, such as 63A CeeForm connectors etc and a basic understanding of electricity.

However I then moved in to Acoustics and worked at that for 4 1/2 years, but I was never really acoustic consultant material and as times grew hard, they laid 3 people off. One thing during those 4 1/2 years I was made aware of, by visiting just so many of them was building sites and thus trades. Building sites have always fascinated me.
During the last year or so of that job, I decided to begin learning a trade and my interest in the Electrical side of things and a bit of history and understanding made me go for the 2330 Levels 2 & 3.

Still in the learning mode whilst now in an IT Support role, but trying to get in to WORKING in the trade is the next step.

Doing some private jobs, within family and my own home is where I'm starting though, just to keep my "foot in the door" so to speak.

So I'm coming at it from a "Career change" perspective but wishing I'd got into it from school.
I was probably too much of a snob to realise!
 
I started my first years apprenticeship a "couple" of years ago (1976 :omg_smile:). Took a change of direction after and did OND Business Studies and MSc Physics (Computing/Electronics). Started work in computer hardware maintenance. Completed an IBM PC maintenance course (when PCs came on the market in the early '80s) to enable the company to sell them. You had to be able to service them in those days before you were allowed to sell them!.

Started work at IBM Hursley in 1989 (when it was still an R&D Lab) and left April 2010, doing everything from hardware, software, technical documentation/reviews through to line/project management. Bought my quals up to date just over a year ago (2382/2392) and joined ELECSA back in January.

I still do a fair amount of electronic repair/upgrades (hardware/software/firmware). Mainly board level replacement stuff these days (so the oscilloscope doesn't see the light of day very often), but do sort out the odd custom power supply (i.e.: TM9100 Hardware Repairs - Technomate 9100 Wikipedia).
 
well where shall i start, was sick of doing crap, thankless, low paid jobs while the kids were growing up. other half was laid off when saralees closed and retrained as a gas engineer, so i thought if he can do it so can i, don't know why i decided to become a sparky but its the best thing i ever did. have 2330 lvl 2&3, 17th ed, 2391 and have just become a qs with niceic (one of the very few females).
Tried to get the kids to be builders, joiners and plasterers but they were having none of it,lol
 
Once upon a long time ago my brothers and I were all sat down in the front room with our parents and our Mother said... I want one of you to be a builder, one a plumber and the other an electrician.

Yeah yeah, I was going to be a professional footballer. Had the trials, had the positive feedback just didn't have the 6ft 5 inches they were all searching for at the time:(

Anyway Mother leaves Christmas Eve, leaving myself (13) my 2 brothers (10/8) and my 7 year old sister with my Father and that was that. My Dad had to give up his job as an Inspector in the Aircraft Industry and dedicated the rest of his p*ssed up life looking after us all the best he could.

I fell in and out of a hideous amount of jobs that ranged from washing dishes and cleaning toilets in a Chinese Restaurant at the age of 14 to fast fit centre management, School Grounds Maintenance (mostly cricket pitches), cold calling insurance sales, Progress chasing for Westlands Helicopters, call centre Muppet, Telescopic Forklift Operator, Slinger Signaller for Cranes and so on and so on.

I've had loads of jobs, never left any because I wasn't good at what I did but none of them appealed enough to do longer than 18 months normally. Well, apart from the forking and banking. That I did enjoy as there was a lot of responsibility with regards to the lifting I was involved in.

Unfortunately the construction trade dried up around here and the contract I was on came to an end and I could no longer get any work.

I sat down on one occasion and thought about what I really wanted to do, I was thinking along the lines of what can I do that will always be required and I will still be able to do when I near the age of retirement so Plumber, Plasterer builder and Electrician came into mind.

I quickly ruled out Plasterer because I'm a short arse and have done Plasterboard tacking in the past and knew how challenging I found doing ceilings back then.

Builder was quite appealing but then I thought about getting older and didn't think that I would want to be lifting and walking around knee deep in mud, in the p*ssing rain at the age of 60+ so that got dismissed.

Plumber was the next to be binned, the thought of dealing with other peoples p*ss and s*it decided that sharpish lol

So Electrician was then considered, before making any decisions I decided to ask a family friend if I could do a few days work with them unpaid (I was out of work anyway and it got me out of the house). From that point on I've not looked back. Okay so at the age of 33 I opted for the short course route but this is just the beginning for me.

I've now got almost 18 months Domestic experience under my belt and will be going for my Final assessment next week.

Unfortunately when I was at school I didn't have a clue what I wanted to do but after all these years I have finally found something that can be mentally challenging but practical at the same time. If I knew back then what I knew now I would have opted for the apprenticeship route and would have many years experience under my belt by now.
 
Left school at 16 with average grades, my dad wanted me to sign up to the army like he did at my age, he did the full 22 years and has been posted all over the world but for a 16 year old all I wanted to do is lounge about going out with my mates etc. A year later after working in rubbish jobs a female friend started seeing a new bloke, he asked if I work for him as an electricians labourer. That was it, I fell in love with the trade after a couple of weeks. Me being intrigued by what we was doing I asked loads of questions every day to find out why we use 1.5 for lights and 2.5 or 4mm for sockets? He was very accommodating and took the time to explain. After a few months I stopped asking questions so he asked me why? "I know it all" was my silly reply at which he almost dropped to the floor laughing. He then put me to the test on a kitchen rewire and told me to design the circuits. Told him what was needed and why, he wad amazed but I put it down to his good tuition. After this he trusted me to work by myself and he would test and power up. This went on for 4 years until he got an offer he couldn't refuse, electrical QS for a big home building company. Because I had no quals I couldn't go work for the same firm so ended up back into dead end jobs for ten years doing small jobs on the side to keep my hand in until part p came along (i did a lot of work for landlords). I decided to go to college and did my 2330 L2 + 3, 17th but I qualified in 2008 just as the recession hit. Found it difficult to find work with all the laid off sparks out there so I continued in a dead end job until January this year when I got a start. Since then I've been suby-ing for different firms as and when needed and doing my own work on the side. Biggest regret for me is not going into an apprenticeship straight after school and getting more quals than what I have now. PS Ken, great thread.
 
Left school at 16 with 2 GCSEs (after sitting 10!), decided to go on to college to do some more, ended up with 7 in total. No apprenticeships around in the late 80s so looked into joining RAF with a mate, he went I didn't.

Got a job working for Peugeot in Coventry on a production line, spent several years fitting exhausts, and yes you can get quicker than a kwik fit fitter. Looked on the company notice board and saw that they wanted mature apprentices for the maintenance team. Applied and out of more than 150 applicants was one of the 6 selected. So at the age of 27 went back to school.

Spent the first of my 3 years full time at a local college, next 2 were day release passed all my 214/232 exams with either credits or distinctions, loved every minute of studying again (looking at the young Sonia's wasn't too bad either).

Got my indentures at the age of 30 and went to work on a robotic welding line as a multi-skilled maintenance trades-person. After a couple of years dashing around keeping the robots running went on to the night shift doing routine/planned/emergency work until plant closure in December 2007.

Studied the 2330 and 238 (16th) in years running up to plant closure and did my 239 shortly after leaving, worked for Siemens in Birmingham for a short while as an engineer before starting out on my own in 2007. Considering I never ever thought about doing this for a living I thoroughly enjoy it and have met some great people along the way.

Regards wa
 
left school at 15, go tapprenticeship with GEC, did ONC and HNC, then got sponsorship for a degree (which was great, I'd just fell out of a relationship, had to sell a house with negative equity).. so went to uni.... did a couple of years then ran out of money, found a job installing machines, then a couple of jobs doing process control.... got the hump working for others, so set up on my own... and been that way for 9 years.


when asked if I always wanted to be a sparky, I say that I wanted to be a florist, but noone would take me seriously... so I had to become a sparky... but that's mainly because of my name (circuit)
 
Started at 16/17 came out of school with 10 GCSE A-C parents tried to encourage the normal 6th form uni route, academia didn't interest me in one bit, it would have been a cheap **** up for 3 years and at the end of it probably would have gone into the same job anyway so seemed a waste of time and money. Dad tried to get me to go into the army/royal engineers, as he's still in, coming up for 33yrs, but that kind of life wasn't for me. Found a job with a local contractor and the rest is history, been self-employed for the last 3/4yrs.
 
I never felt i was academic in school but found I had a obsession with wires and electricity as a youngster, I did various jobs upon leaving school stacking shelves and worked as a postie for 4 years.My dad was a jockey and wanted me to go to the racing school at newmarket, but I couldn't hold down the 8 stone weight limit so that was a none starter...
I then apply for a job working in alarm installation and found i really liked the testing and commissioning but I work with a turd of a guy who never taught me anything for fear of losing his job once i was competent, so i told my employer and left (regretted that ever since) My friend owned a truck tyre fitting company and i worked doing that for 4 years, until i got married,I then decided to apply to college to do my 2330 as i wanted a stable job that i could always earn money at.
I have 2 more exams left to take on the 2330 l3 and to finish off my nvq. I have a good friend who is a very good spark and he has me work with him as much as he can. I also work for a plumber and builder during the week and college on a friday and then i work saturday and sunday on a security gig ,I have been working 7 days for over a year now, that coupled with buying and renovating our first home.I never knew it would be this hard to become qualified, its been a long 3 years at college but I never truly wanted to do anything else..I firmly believe that sparking is never a job for me but its who I am...
 
left school at 16 started an apprenticeship as HGV fitter. hated the chief engineer and the 10 mile trip to work. went back to dad and worked in his joinery co. started by making tea and cleaning the floor, ended up building kitchens from scratch. At 21 joined the army as a medic, spent 3 1/2 years on 24hrs notice to move anywhere in the world, served in the first Gulf war, 3 medals 2 citations and no qualifications. left and worked on a polo yard, then put up marques, then corporate entertainment and started to learn about electrics. Started working for myself mainly as a chippy/small builder. Have worked everywhere from Northumberland where i helped rewire a 12 bed hunting lodge to just below Florence where I got very confused by their wiring!! All the electrical stuff I did was before I was offered the chance to work with my uncle at the natural history museum as an electricians mate.. which I said no to! Biggest mistake ever. Spent years as a builder paying for people to do something I thought I could do, (until I tried using a tester and got confused) so thought thats it and started on the road by doing a short (expensive) course, qualified and 3 years later I am still learning (thank goodness for this forum) I am now looking to do testing as I have always like maths! Will there ever be a time when I can say I know it all? I think not, but I will try to get as close as I can.
 
My story is somewhat similar to paul.m's. I left school with barely any qualification as not surprising later in life (when I 'd learned to read school league tables) I found out my school was by far the worst in the borough. I could barely read or write but I did have a couple of much older friends one of whom called me when I'd not yet turned 16 and asked if I was able to do works such as labouring, painting, plastering and the like to which I replied yes as any job meant the world to me. Little did I know that the person I'd be working for happened to be an electrician but doing general building work in his brother-in-law's house. What's more I later found out he was the brother of my friend who got me a place with him in the first place though they were worlds apart in character so I couldn't have guessed. I stayed with him for around 4 years straight but unfortunately I'd not taken out an apprenticeship so when I finally did fall out with him all I had was the experience with not a single paper to my name. From then on it was a case of doing bits-and-pieces around (random jobs) and getting back with him for short periods. I finally decided to go college to try and re-school myself and spent good 6 years or so in college on a variety of courses, including English language and literature, politics, and philosophy at A level. I also attempted a couple of access courses too buy sadly nearly all of those came to nothing as I failed to achieve a single upper pass grade. By then I'd chosen to settle for an office based job as I didn't deem electrics to be conducive to studying as I'd be strolling into the class full of dust and knackered out whereas in an office you'd be reading, writing, and having formal meeting during the day and evening college would simply be an extension of that. In this period I restricted electrical work to friends and family and by which time part P was being introduced and the way I saw it was either I needed several thousand pounds for a crash course or several years in the state college route but really had neither as by now I was in the wife and kids life territory. I did a few dead end jobs when the going got tough and even signed up for IT training which, once qualified, I'd be offered work and after a year's service my training fees (£4000) would be paid off but the company went under (or was a scam in the first place) and it left me £4000 out of pocket which I owed to my mum of all people! During this time I'd taken voluntary redundancy from a removal company where I worked as an administrator hopeful I'd be entering the IT industry soon and when the IT prospects diminished I really had nowhere to turn as at times there were something in the order of 500 applicants for a single administrative position! By this time I'd also developed a hatred for the way things were going in the country with the recession with so little people doing real jobs and me being one of them as I worked for 3 charities during this time, one of which was the worst job of my life where I had to stop people on the street and ask them to sign up to a particular charity. On the one hand I was proud to have a job but on the other it was taken away from me with the institutionalised begging. In the end it took some clever planning and getting the right sum of cash in order to go for the independent college route which I did last September and I now have 2330 L2 and 3, 17[SUP]th[/SUP] Ed, Part P, PAT and am in the process of doing 2356 and 2391. The college stuff came naturally and thank God I excelled in nearly every area. I took up the self employment route a couple of years ago now and pulled in a talented mature student who done the level 2 with me and here I am.
 
Wanted to be a traffic copper or police marksman/armed response (MASSIVE love of guns and cars still to this day) but was too young at 16 and they said i should get some experience. Thought id do an apprenticeship and then when i reached 20 if i still couldnt get into the police i could always fall back on this and so far i havn't tried again to get into the police. Maybe its because i enjoy being a sparky so much or maybe its just pure laziness.
 
i am surprised at how many of you lads did the intensive courses, i have always maintained a slight hatred for these due to the amount of money they cost and the promises the give, however it seems to me that when done in conjunction with on the job training, they do have their place. i suppose for the ex army boys who may have the skills set but not the paper side they help you get on.
 
Wanted to be a TV engineer or a spark and a guy fixing my telly at the time said forget it the way electronic are goin I will be out of a job soon that was 36 years ago so I sat a test for Balfour Kilpatrick and came up against nudge nudge wink wink or in other words the guys were already picked even a blind man could see what was going on but they had to (even then) be seen to go through the motions then Mathew Hall were looking for 10 out of 100 got into the next 40 then the final 20 and that was that but even now the Balfour thing just made me more determined to get on through ability instead of who you know and it has worked for me
 

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