How do I change these lights

[Irvsax]

I have two 'regular' lights in the ceiling and I want to change them to spot light fixtures. (images attached). I cant fit the mounting plate over the plate that is already on the ceiling that is housing some cables (I assume because there are two lights on the circuit). So how to I go about keeping these cables in tact and fitting the new light in this space?

Thank you in advance for any help. It really is appreciated.

 

[DPG]

When he says there is a 'ground' there, I suspect he means 'joist' and it has auto corrected.

As per westy and 123, plenty of room in the fitting for the connections, no need to make a big hole in the ceiling. Plus that may make fitting the bracket tricky if there's no flat surface left.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I find it makes it easier to fit the lamp when up a set of steps, providing strain relief for the cables instead of hanging the lamp by its cable as you try fit the terminals, not so awkward to get the cables inside the fitting when trying to fit the ceiling rose, but to each their own, don't understand the back lash seems out of proportion.

 

[DPG]

I find it makes it easier to fit the lamp when up a set of steps, providing strain relief for the cables instead of hanging the lamp by its cable as you try fit the terminals, not so awkward to get the cables inside the fitting when trying to fit the ceiling rose, but to each their own, don't understand the back lash seems out of proportion.

Yep, I do get the awkwardness of multiple cables whilst you're up a ladder holding a fitting. But if you wago them together first, then just leave the light fitting connections till last that will help.

 

[telectrix]

what i do in some cases is hold the fitting up with a cable tie through the mounting bracket. connect up, cut tie, then fix light onto bracket. and as above, wagos on fixed cables first.