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Alottasparks
never mind..nobody will respond sensibly anyway...
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how much do you reckon this will roughly cost...?
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Phil
after reading the pm it appears that the cables to the down lights are in place and there but as yet none are terminated. no other works have been started or completed on the rewire and no consumer unit changes as yet. maybe if you could pop a couple of pics on and a description of works required someone may well want to pop round and see you regarding the works if you want to pop a rough location on (not full address).
cbw
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I am hoping to quote on one similar in a City near me.
I will be looking at what work has been done and more importantly why the previous spark has been booted.
If I take the job I will insist on a large deposit as cannot trust customer who has booted first spark.
If cables/existing work not satisfactory I will quote to replace/rectify.
If your near Suffolk I would be happy to take a look at yours, It cannot even be guessed at on a forum as there are too many variables.
I will be looking at what work has been done and more importantly why the previous spark has been booted.
If I take the job I will insist on a large deposit as cannot trust customer who has booted first spark.
If cables/existing work not satisfactory I will quote to replace/rectify.
If your near Suffolk I would be happy to take a look at yours, It cannot even be guessed at on a forum as there are too many variables.
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Alottasparks
By the way NovusSparku you should stop insinuating that I ripped the guy off because I paid a v large % sum upfront which a lot of customers don't do, and I gave plenty of warnings to the guy to turn up to supervise which went compeltely ignored. my first re-quote today said I have over paid, but I just wanted the non trustworthy electrician out of the way. But that is why I posted the thread asking roughly how much it might cost to t rectify damage. Again, never mind I asked
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Adam W
You insinuated that yourself by saying you paid him "some" money. It sounds like your issue is with two young looking people being left "unsupervised" in your house when you think there should be a 'grownup' standing over them.
There as obviously been a big breakdown between you and the electrician for whatever reason, be it the fact that he left work to be done by people you have considered to be non-competant persons. As you are paying the bills you are quite within your rights to object to this, and ask for an explaination and proof of thier competancy.
Of course if your not happy with that explaination, you have every rights to stop the work and ask the electrician to leave the site. This though IMO should be the last resort as it opens up all types of litigation and expensive procedures. I think it would have been more advantageous to sit down and talk things through, but it seems that was not done by either of you.
That though seems to be the case, you have "paid" them off and now you want the work completed by another contractor. That in itself is not going to be too difficult to do, but it could be expensive. There are many times, espicially in todays market, when a job is started by a contractor, who goes bust, and the work is finished by another.
Whoever you call in will advise you, or should advise you to contact your LABC. You will need to explain what happened, that you originally used a NICEIC contractor who was going to notify his work after completion, but due to circumstances, which you explian, you felt the need to stop the work and ejected them from your home. You advise them also that you have contacted another scheme affliated contractor who is willing to take on the work, but obviously can not sign off the 1st fix work, but is willing to do a PIR on that part of the installation and a full EIC on his part. The chances are the LABC will accept this, and you will get your work completed. The new electrician may also do a full EIC for all the installation, but just part 3 of the EIC will be completed by him for the Inspection and Testing, it can only be sorted out through the LABC, you and the new contractor.
Cost? Well that is the crux. The new contractor is going to thoroughly check the existing work, he may even decide that it is sub standard and remove it, unfortuantely this is the penalty you face for ejecting the original contractor, this is why I originally said that would have been my last resort. You can of course claim the extra expense of the removal of the existing installation through the courts, and he will counter claim that you never gave him a chance to rectify the work. In all honesty I think it will cost you more in the long run in expenses and stress, as it could drag on and on. It may very well mean you bite the bullet take the loss and move on.
Of course if your not happy with that explaination, you have every rights to stop the work and ask the electrician to leave the site. This though IMO should be the last resort as it opens up all types of litigation and expensive procedures. I think it would have been more advantageous to sit down and talk things through, but it seems that was not done by either of you.
That though seems to be the case, you have "paid" them off and now you want the work completed by another contractor. That in itself is not going to be too difficult to do, but it could be expensive. There are many times, espicially in todays market, when a job is started by a contractor, who goes bust, and the work is finished by another.
Whoever you call in will advise you, or should advise you to contact your LABC. You will need to explain what happened, that you originally used a NICEIC contractor who was going to notify his work after completion, but due to circumstances, which you explian, you felt the need to stop the work and ejected them from your home. You advise them also that you have contacted another scheme affliated contractor who is willing to take on the work, but obviously can not sign off the 1st fix work, but is willing to do a PIR on that part of the installation and a full EIC on his part. The chances are the LABC will accept this, and you will get your work completed. The new electrician may also do a full EIC for all the installation, but just part 3 of the EIC will be completed by him for the Inspection and Testing, it can only be sorted out through the LABC, you and the new contractor.
Cost? Well that is the crux. The new contractor is going to thoroughly check the existing work, he may even decide that it is sub standard and remove it, unfortuantely this is the penalty you face for ejecting the original contractor, this is why I originally said that would have been my last resort. You can of course claim the extra expense of the removal of the existing installation through the courts, and he will counter claim that you never gave him a chance to rectify the work. In all honesty I think it will cost you more in the long run in expenses and stress, as it could drag on and on. It may very well mean you bite the bullet take the loss and move on.
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PC Electrics
It is quite common, especially on new build, for a firm to employ cheap labour for first fix, followed by a moderately qualified & experienced sparks for second. The only time a well qualified & very experienced spark goes near it is at the testing stage (if it ever gets tested that is - but that's another whole thread).
You may object to this way of working (and I would agree in part), but, in your particular case, exactly what aspect of the work did you consider substandard? What regulations, if any, were being broken.
The bottom line, however, is that this job is now dragging on instead of being progressed and it is highly likley that it will end up costing you more. You may also have difficulty getting a new contractor - many will be suspicious of your 'motives'.
You may object to this way of working (and I would agree in part), but, in your particular case, exactly what aspect of the work did you consider substandard? What regulations, if any, were being broken.
The bottom line, however, is that this job is now dragging on instead of being progressed and it is highly likley that it will end up costing you more. You may also have difficulty getting a new contractor - many will be suspicious of your 'motives'.
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