how rough????

[lloyd1980]

Just thought Id share with you what I found yesterday at someones house
The spark who installed this did so 4 years ago, charged her £ 950 for the shower feed install , this included an £ 80 quid charge for a full drum of 10mm, the remainder on the drum he took on the van

and I couldnt beleive the route he'd picked for the feed

it is a driveway and right by a gate used all the time

anyway enjoy the pics !!!

 

[Guest123]

<<<<<speechless.....

 

[davelerave]

awesome

any rcd on the cable

 

[lloyd1980]

he had installed a 1 way rcd board feeding it, fed that in 10mm but between the board and the little shower rcd board hes stripped the outer sheath off leaving just red and black 10mm tails' with green and yellow taped cpc
........magic!!!
must have took him about 4 hours all in all - nearly a grand!

 

[DurhamSparky]

sorry i was hard up at the time and need the money!!!

 

[DurhamSparky]

on a more serious note he could of at least enclosed it in some sort of conduit ... black normally looks nice up the wall..!!

£950 must have been good time or naive customers!!

my reckoning..

45 for Shower RCD and isolator
80 for cable!! why not!!
and 300 for fitting

or call it 450 the job inc conduit!!

 

[lloyd1980]

sorry i was hard up at the time and need the money!!!

PMSL!!!

yeah RCD in his case stood for Retarded Clipping Distances

ive seen some rough stuff in my time but this is right up there
the woman had no idea of the risks with it like it is, she then asked me could i put some trunking over it, I then told her white trunking down the side of the house would look worse than it does

Im back next week to do work there I may just tell her she needs conduit, fit it and just charge her for the conduit and saddles

I feel sorry for her

£80 for cable, bear in mind this was years ago and he took the whole drum with him lol

 

[DurhamSparky]

Eh!!! she willing pays 950 for a dumbo and you will fit the conduit for cost price!!

nah i see where your coming from, i probably would do the same as next time she needs work she will ring YOU!! (plus its advantage you working there any way!)



lol... drum of 50 cost nearly 100 now!!

 

[lloyd1980]

mate im making good money on the rest of the work im doing there - outside supply to sheds, seperate consumer units, outside ip rated socket, and new socket in hall and sockets in kitchen

Id sleep better knowing that baby was wrapped up in black conduit and her grand kiids wont be picking at it then getting belted

it will take me half an hour to do

this is the type of idiot you get on MY HAMMER right now

imagine if everyone took a leaf out of this fellas book, rewiring the house and running ALL the cables on the outside lol

 

[DurhamSparky]

lol.... i rewired a ring correctly other day for free as i would have worried all night as well..!!

 

[lloyd1980]

now that IS generous mate
I dont know if I could have stomached the sweat and back ache without payment to ease the pain ooooowwwwccccchhhhh ......... oh a cheque.............it feels much better now

 

[Sav]

Hold on a minute!!!!!!!!!
It maybe an OUTSIDE SHOWER he fitted !!!!
What a plum

Sav

 

[jmtisme]

I thought it was only me that repaired other peoples mistakes for nout. I don't feel so stupid now

 

[mogga]

Anne Robinsons next series on BBC "The Good Guys" Starring LLoydy Durham Jmtisme ect ect carlsberg dont do TV but if they did ...........

 

[lloyd1980]

do you know what I am as well
got a callout, fella had lost his heating and hot water, tells me he thinks it needs re-wiring over the phone
I go there and have a rummage, turns out his mrs when pushing sheets and blankets back into the airing cupboard had knocked off the fused spur feeding boiler etc
now a lesser man may have hid in the cellar for 4 hours 'tinkering' before finding the problem
I couldnt , told him straight away, he was sheepish, not as sheepish as she was, now Im a lifer in that house
It pays to be honest

 

[martysparky]

I agree totally even if your skint because that level of professionalism is what gets you good honest real people ringing you in the future.


Priced a job the other day for and there was a 10mm clipped direct to a stair post. shower fitted about a year ago, it would only take a knock from someone moving furniture up/down stairs....

 

[Phil]

9 and a half hundred quid?? wow i wish i could get that for a shower. 1 a week and i would have the rest of the week off happy. speechless

 

[lloyd1980]

unreal isnt it
and it must have taken 4 hours tops to put in the way he had!!!!

 

[Phil]

looking at the thread about being honest, i could not agree more. we once did a re-wire for a couple after she went to the shop i seen 2 twenty quid notes on the floor near were she was sorting her purse out. i have never seen anyone look as shocked when i gave her it when she came back from the shops. needless to say there was plenty of sarnies made for lunches and more coffees than starbucks

 

[DurhamSparky]

Im always honest to customers... i feel its the best way!!

when they say they found some one to do same job for £50 + Parts (like a CU Change) i just tell them i cant match that price and its there call but be prepared to reasonably expect a localised electrical causing house fire!

truth some times is best option.


im too kind to my customers (corporate gets no discount though)...

 

[andekoch]

went to install a cable to a garage CU on monday and ended up partially rewiring the lights because they were so poorly done for no extra as and corrected non continuous live on the sockets as well.

 

[lloyd1980]

exactly
i bet it felt great handing them to her
and I bet she told everyone she could about what happened

 

[lloyd1980]

see we are all good sparks who care

 

[DurhamSparky]

no wonder the cowboys make a killing...!!! we tidy there mess up!!

 

[Phil]

exactly
i bet it felt great handing them to her
and I bet she told everyone she could about what happened

she certainly did and a few follow up`s from her friends for bits and pieces afterwards. which in turn can lead to bigger jobs as they remember a good service

 

[SEC-Tom]

Anybody else think an armoured cable running up the wall and being made off into an adaptable box/stop end box would have been a better approach?

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Did mine at home recently and dropped a 10mm down an outside wall in 25mm black plastic with a stopend box on each end....Often you can run it up behind a downpipe,they are an inch or so off the wall,unscrew the fixing cliips,move it to one side and refix once your conduits in place....pretty unobtrusive then.

 

[blackiel]

5 years you say that cable was out there,im surprised it wasnt more weather beaten and cracking and peeling.

Rotten looking job, 950...4 hrs...sometimes you question your own honesty!!!

 

[lloyd1980]

Ive nicknamed him dick turpin

 

[DurhamSparky]

Turpin...!!! more like TURNIP !!!!

Turnip Electrical at your service...!!

0800 Bodge Scarper

 

[blackiel]

More like Dick Rushitin....Funny,My Missus calls me that and all.....And ive never charged her 950 for 4 hours..strange!!

 

[eskimo39]

Funnily enough I have just been asked to wire a shower feed for a customer who has just had their house fully replastered and now decides they want a shower

I explained the safest way would be to chase a 2/3" channel up their wall and into the ceiling and then lift a few floorboards to pull the cable accross to the bathroom. I would then remove some tiles in their bathroom (with the trusty Fein) chase it up again to where the shower point will be, fill all my chases and re-fix & grout the tiles in the bathroom, and guarantee my chases would be unseen once painted, all for £380.

Her husband phoned and told me his mate has told him he will do it for £100 by just running "some thick cable" outside and clipped up the wall to the bathroom, would I be willing to reduce my price!!!!!!!!!

Some customers really are asking for trouble but for some scumbag to charge £950 to do this is scandalous.
With any work I do for customers (especially eldery) I always think how I would like my family or parents to be treated by a tradesman and do the job to that quality. In one of your pictures I noticed there seems to be some flags stacked quite close to that cable indicating the possible dangers.

Whaty method would you use to feed a shower if the customer wanted no internal chases??? SWA, Metal Conduit, Plastic Conduit, pvc/pvc????

 

[Des 56]

This will stir a few faint hearted types no doubt

Cavity !

Damp bridging the cavity via the cable
Mouse food
Un supported cable
"But it works dont it "

Internal via a airing cupbpoard or hidden trunking into the attic and short chase or trunking to the shower

You could go for the tack it to the external wall route and charge £ 850 quoting the Texan method and charge accordingly( using thick cable of course )