Hyundai's HiS-S250MG Any good?

[furrypants]

Hi

Just starting out in the quest to fit PV panels to my roof, so doing the rounds and getting quotes. Have so far had 2 quotes in:

3.7kw Perlight Panels with SMA SB4000 TL (circa £13k)
and
4.0kw Hyundai's HiS-S250MG Panels with SMA SB4000 TL (circa £11k)

2 more surveys booked for next week.

Unable to find any info apart from the data sheets on the Hyundais, but look good to me. Anyone got any thoughts?

Help much appreciated

 

[Markc]

We've run a few designs using the Hyundai 250 and seems to compare very very well. 10Yr warranty also which is good.

Same old issues with the inverter mind. SMA 4000TL? That's over 3.68 grid connection.

 

[furrypants]

Cheers for the reply puts my mind at rest going for Hyundais 9at the moment). Yes did ask the question about it being 4 and not 3.7 like the other quote, company said they had not had any issues with the DNO supplier accepting. Just need clarification of what happens if the DNO does say no!

 

[MorganPVI]

Can you post a PV Sol yield estimate with 16 panels and a 4000tl? I have a few quotes out with them.
Ta muchly. Our DNO allows upto 4kw under G83 so it's sunny boy ahoy.

Those Hyundais are well priced, you could do alot worse.

 

[furrypants]

Quote says 3110.4kWh pa

Orientation is 35 degs off South (SW)
Angle 30-40 degs
No shading problems

 

[MorganPVI]

Sorry furry, I hoping MarkC would post a result from his PV Sol software (i'm too tight to spend the money )

The 3110 is your SAP Calc. In a good year, a well installed system could yield 3400 - 3500 kwh. My advice would be pick an installer who posts on here and get them to install you 16 Sanyo on a SMA 4000tl. it would be a little more than your perlite panels but it would more than pay in the long run.

Panel choice is all very well but any badly installed project will cost more in the long run, choose your installer as wisely as the panels.

 

[furrypants]

The 3110 is quoted from the installation company and do stress its on the conservative side. Will get a quote on the sanyos tho. Cheers

 

[redmile-energy]

you can comfortably use a sunnyboy 3300 on a 16 panel sanyo system if you want to keep costs down, Sunny design even suggests it will produce more per annum. Max DC power of 3820 which when you consider cable loses and other factors your 4.00kwp system is likely to operate under this for 99% of its life. I'm about to price a hyundai panel for a job myself and just wondered if the HiS-S250MG is actually on PV SOL before i go to the trouble of manually inputting it on sunny design.

 

[furrypants]

sorry no idea if hyundais are on PV sol, there's not that much info on them on net. can you let me know what you think if you do get a figure.

One reason i like these is that they come in black, wifes input!

 

[redmile-energy]

once ive done a bit of work I'll let you know the figures I come up with + the price I have proposed for my customer. Seem to be a good panel from what I can tell; 10 year warranties, black frames, quite efficient, 250 watts which is good to hit the max 4.00kwp plus a recognised name.

 

[liquidity]

Looks like 16 of these panels will produce 3727 kWh over the course of a year in an area where the annual irradiation is 1043 kWh/m**2. So a decent output but nothing to write home about when compared to others in http://www.electriciansforums.net/p...ective-comparing-different-brands-panels.html

 

[MorganPVI]

Sunny Desgin offers 4000tl only for Hyundai. It is very picky on some panels.

Sanyo and 3300 is a great combination, difficult sell with the customer when all the other competitors offer a 4000tl and cannot uunderstand a 4000tl is oversized for the majority of the year.

 

[furrypants]

Cheers for the info liquidity much appreciated. There are not poor panels which is what i was worried about. The wife wants black (they will look nice) now she knows that you can get them. Do the sanyos have the black option? Will get onto the company and get the sanyo quote, will be interesting to see what the other companies recommend.

Cheers

 

[redmile-energy]

kyocera is another one to consider- very good quality black framed panel, they're what I'll be putting on my own roof soon if that is a good enough recommendation from an installer! probably sit in the mid range price bracket between hyundai and sanyo.

 

[redmile-energy]

Yes morgan glad you share my pain- had a number of frustrating conversations with customers over 3300/4000TL, peoples minds seem to immediately assume that the larger figure is a better inverter or more suited because the system is 4000watts peak. Unfortunately many people think you are trying to swindle them with a sub standard inverter when you're actually just proposing the best one for the job and keep the costs down!!