I am cancelling NIC and joining NAPIT

[Sjn electrical]

Hi mate, NIC are renowned for this kind of thing, to be honest they are probably all the same, but i'm with ELECSA and I've always found them really helpful when needed.

I have joined Elesca because i found nic to be so rude and NON helpful or interested.
I would recomend Elecsa to everyone. They were so helpful and supportive.

 

[Goody]

you gotta be kidding?? most people want the cheapest job possible and couldnt give a ---- about a certificate.
from personal experience i have found that most people i meet have heard of niceic and think that means you are an electrician so gives them some confidence in you.
most people have never even heard of the other schemes, that is why i chose nic. if you believe otherwise then you can join whichever scheme suits you.
at the end of the day the nic have the biggest public profile and their charges are the same as other scheme providers so until the others do something about it by offering reduced membership costs or changing public opinion i wont be changing

Yes, some of them don't want to part with money and they don't care for any certificate, likewise they are not bothered as who you are registered with. Some will turn away if you tell them that you are a NICEIC electrician because they think your charges will be beyond their reach.

The public has a misconception on registered electricians in general and this opens the backdoor for the cowboys.

 

[i=p/u]

but dont you think the powers above are creating this misconception

 

[flukey]

Yes, some of them don't want to part with money and they don't care for any certificate, likewise they are not bothered as who you are registered with. Some will turn away if you tell them that you are a NICEIC electrician because they think your charges will be beyond their reach.

The public has a misconception on registered electricians in general and this opens the backdoor for the cowboys.

just goes to show how it differs from area to area

 

[Electricalserv]

Hi p11jor, sorry to hear of the hassle you're having.

feel free to contact NAPIT for some obligation-free advice on 0845 543 0330.

Sincerely...

Ant @ NAPIT.

Edit* contacted by PM

 

[Electricalserv]

Hi Electricalserv,

I merely suggested a source of info for p11jor. Judging by your comment I can only deduct that the advice given will be to pursue the 17th Edition, 2391 etc that you've highlighted.

Apologies if I've inadvertantly caused you concern

Ant @ NAPIT.

No Ant you haven't.

It came up the other day that yopu can get on napits full scope with a 5 day ISO course. I'm unhappy with that and id like to know who I can contact to complain

 

[BlueToBits]

In the days before Part Pee The NICEIC was a charity based consumer organisation where it put the electrical safety interests of the consumer's first, they had no concern for the interests of their approved contractors. Electricians did not need to be registered with any organisation and the NIC approval was seen as a mark of those that voluntarily offered themselves up for techical scrutiny so they could wear the NICEIC badge with pride. Of course the NICEIC is a now a business, but the ethos still remains in there somewhere and perhaps that's why it is easier to get registered by other organisations who may have less stringent rules and requirements? I still don't set up any particular jobs for my assessments, I just hand over a list of all work and the assessor picks any two to visit. If I could only offer two jobs that I was happy to be inspected then I would expect to be knocked back by the NICEIC.

 

[Electricalserv]

In the days before Part Pee The NICEIC was a charity based consumer organisation where it put the electrical safety interests of the consumer's first, they had no concern for the interests of their approved contractors. Electricians did not need to be registered with any organisation and the NIC approval was seen as a mark of those that voluntarily offered themselves up for techical scrutiny so they could wear the NICEIC badge with pride. Of course the NICEIC is a now a business, but the ethos still remains in there somewhere and perhaps that's why it is easier to get registered by other organisations who may have less stringent rules and requirements? I still don't set up any particular jobs for my assessments, I just hand over a list of all work and the assessor picks any two to visit. If I could only offer two jobs that I was happy to be inspected then I would expect to be knocked back by the NICEIC.

Its just as easy if not easier to join the NICEIC than any other scheme!

 

[Electricalserv]

Ant @ NAPIT thanks for the information you have been very helpful!

 

[William Irons]

just paid niceic in april for their annual fee engineer came out in may and i just got another bill in today for £340 for the engineer coming in may
I rang them and they said but the anual fee just covers a half days visit RIP OFF
I said to the unhelpful person i talked to that i willl begin the de - registration process and they couldnt have cared less what do we get for the annual fee eh FRESH AIR

 

[Engineer54]

A question,

....So what would you have to do, to fail one of these scam providers acceptance assessment, or one of these so called annual assessments??? Does anyone know of anyone, that has failed either of these?? Just curious, as i've never seen anything mentioned on any of threads that i've read so far.

 

[jsa986]

Yep Elecsa are the way forward

 

[electromonkey]

I've not read all this thread so apologies if it's already been said. If your reg with the NIC is still active, ELECSA may waver their joining charge. It's worth ringing them to find out.

 

[sbrown2]

if you are going for full scope in elec,plumbing, vent and some heating plus MCS then NAPIT are very competitive, just paid £1102 and am not looking forward to al l of the assessments.

 

[mcs.serv]

Delayed Reaction!

I'm an Elecsa man, as above, always very help full.

Assessors (now ECA i believe, previously BBA) very help full, & informative