Internet central heating controllers

[Octopus]

Is it me or are they as annoying as all the far eastern spam?

Yes we have the option to ignore them, but the rate they are appearing on the site is getting out of hand IMHO

Should there be a specific area for these?

I don't see why people on here are expected to give away their knowledge and experience for free, whilst the vendors of the products sit back and make profits ?

Just saying

 

[Ian1981]

How can the homeowner show off to his mates at work how he can be sat in the works canteen and turn his heating on.

Very true!

 

[telectrix]

i can't understand how any of this internet control can save energy /money. thermostats and timers do the same job at far less outlay.

 

[Squid]

What wrong with using a programmer with the times set to the users discretion?

Lifestyle changes people work odd hours/long hours go on the rag ends up elsewhere plus its a £150 gadget they flog you ;o))))

 

[Squid]

How can the homeowner show off to his mates at work how he can be sat in the works canteen and turn his heating on.

When I was an apprentice they'd boast about the knockers their wives have and flash polaroids around, I'd rather look at knockers then a 16 degrees on a smart phone.

 

[telectrix]

i suppose it's debateable. knockers versus iphone:

 

[Squid]

i suppose it's debateable. knockers versus iphone:

You stick to yours and I'll stick to mine ;o)))))

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[davesparks]

Dave, it is only easy as you have taken the time and probably money to forward yourself in installing this product/system.

Nope, it’s a simplified version of a standard heating control circuit, no special training no money put in and the only time I’ve put in to it is 10 minutes to fill in the online form to be a nest pro.

 

[Squid]

Nope, it’s a simplified version of a standard heating control circuit, no special training no money put in and the only time I’ve put in to it is 10 minutes to fill in the online form to be a nest pro.

Maybe you can help me install one in to a 30 year old S Plan system.......

 

[chris murphy]

i can't understand how any of this internet control can save energy /money. thermostats and timers do the same job at far less outlay.

Hello telectrix,

After a lifetime of operating my Heating without needing the facility to turn it On & Off `remotely` You are absolutely correct in my `informed opinion` - I would never need a `Smart Thermostat` for my Home.

However the reason that `Smart Heating Controls are `more efficient` [for some people] than our Programmers and Room Thermostats / Programmable Room Thermostats is:

Because people can alter their Heating controls / Operating times via the Internet means that for example if they find out that no-one will be coming Home on a particular evening until later than usual they can alter the Heating `On` time from for example 17:00 /5pm to 22:00 / 10pm - therefore saving 5 hours of Gas.

Or they could set a lower temperature for early evening which then returned to their optimum setting perhaps an Hour before they expected to return Home.

Those options are the perceived Energy Efficiency benefit of these Smart Heating Controls - and I am sure that they are beneficial / and save Gas / money for some people.

As We know there are plenty of people who like `Gadgets` and the `one-upmanship` of something like being able to control their Heating system from their Smart phone so I am not surprised that there has already been quite a large demand for the Smart Heating Controls.

Regards,

Chris

 

[telectrix]

agree, but ... basic law of physics. if as your exampleshows, joe bloggs remotely turns off his heating for 5 hours. then his house goes cold.then when he does come back, he's going to have to turn it on again to regain the heat loss while it was off.

 

[Leesparkykent]

agree, but ... basic law of physics. if as your exampleshows, joe bloggs remotely turns off his heating for 5 hours. then his house goes cold.then when he does come back, he's going to have to turn it on again to regain the heat loss while it was off.

Yes but you could maintain a lower temp rather than switching it completely off.

 

[telectrix]

so why not set a lower temp.before you go out? we keep ours on 24/7 at a lowish setting, then when we need a bit more heat, it's not going full blast for hours.

 

[Leesparkykent]

so why not set a lower temp.before you go out? we keep ours on 24/7 at a lowish setting, then when we need a bit more heat, it's not going full blast for hours.

That might work ok if you have a standard dile thermostat (even though you couldn't get the house up to temp just before you got home like you could if you had a smart stat). If you had a programmable thermostat that you set different set points throughout the day then it's going to be a right PITA having to reprogramme it when you leave knowing you won't be home at your usuall time. Smart thermostats might not be to everyone's taste or for a family that are set in their ways, always home at the same time, goes to bed at the same time, gets up at the same time, goes out at the weekend at the same time, comes home at the weekend at the same time and so on.....for someone who has a busy lifestyle and not so structured I can definitely see the benefits.

 

[Strima]

I installed my Nest about a year ago and I've noticed I'm using a lot less gas. Not sure whether this is due to the Nest system being more efficient or the additional steps I've taken such as more loft insulation etc. and warmer weather conditions. My gas Usage is lower than previous years.

My running costs haven't increased for gas even though gas prices have gone up so I must be doing something right.

I've also fitted Nest Protect smokes, although they are expensive I do like the connectivity I have with them. For example if I'm out and get smoke warning I can get the house checked on rather than come home to a smouldering mess. The smokes also do CO so a double whammy.

Also I don't have to remember to test them every month.

Just waiting for them to come up with a heat detector for the kitchen...

 

[Leesparkykent]

I installed my Nest about a year ago and I've noticed I'm using a lot less gas. Not sure whether this is due to the Nest system being more efficient or the additional steps I've taken such as more loft insulation etc. and warmer weather conditions. My gas Usage is lower than previous years.

My running costs haven't increased for gas even though gas prices have gone up so I must be doing something right.

I've also fitted Nest Protect smokes, although they are expensive I do like the connectivity I have with them. For example if I'm out and get smoke warning I can get the house checked on rather than come home to a smouldering mess. The smokes also do CO so a double whammy.

Also I don't have to remember to test them every month.

Just waiting for them to come up with a heat detector for the kitchen...

I'm doing a newbuild that's high end. He's going crazy on all the smart home gadgets so was going to put nest smokes in. I was disappointed to find they didn't do a heat detector. I'm putting in a texecom premier elite alarm so installing additional smokes and a heat that connect to the panel. I'm putting in a smartcom communicator so can be accessed/notified via the cloud etc.