Hi, Really appreciate having access to the Forum. I retired from my desk job in 2008 and as an experienced DIYer went back to College and studied pre-apprenticeship trades courses. In the last 3 years I have achieved NC's in Electrical & Electronic Engineering & Electrical Installation which included work placement and also have an NC in Plumbing with workshop skills. I have been trying to get an Electrical Apprenticeship during this time - the only way in Scotland to train - but have realised that this is very very difficult in the present economic climate and that the youngsters need to get a foot on the ladder, so priority with employers is understandably here. So I appreciate that I have learnt some new skills and really enjoy doing all sorts of DIY jobs around the home and for friends family but wish I could have taken things further....:cheesy: