Irish Electrician Fully Qualified Seeking JIB/ECS

[brazildave]

Hi there, Im a fully qualified Irish electrician with a Level 7 Fetac National Craft card.
Im wondering if any1 has any information on obtaining a JIB card, i have recently been in London and gone through the process of Nation Insurance and trading my Irish Safe Pass card which is the equivalent of the CSCS Card and found that most employers are looking for the JIB card.. Is the JIB and the ECS the same thing and what criteria is required for either??

Any answers would be much appreciated thanks

Dave the Spark

 

[mrloy99]

Hi there, Im a fully qualified Irish electrician with a Level 7 Fetac National Craft card.
Im wondering if any1 has any information on obtaining a JIB card, i have recently been in London and gone through the process of Nation Insurance and trading my Irish Safe Pass card which is the equivalent of the CSCS Card and found that most employers are looking for the JIB card.. Is the JIB and the ECS the same thing and what criteria is required for either

Dave the Spark

Hi dave and welcome.The last time I got my jib card renewed they insisted that I attend their own (ecs) health and safety assessment.The standard csr(though legal for access to sites)wasn't good enough for them...theirs has an electrical bias to it,and I think it was 35 pounds to do about four years ago,though no doubt cost more now.This only gets you the cert...you would then have to approach jib /ecs/eca with your qualifications and certs and more money.
good luck

 

[Electricalwork9]

If looking for Jon email details to Irish electrical contractor
[email protected]

 

[lledlledlled]

Hi there, Im a fully qualified Irish electrician with a Level 7 Fetac National Craft card.
Im wondering if any1 has any information on obtaining a JIB card, i have recently been in London and gone through the process of Nation Insurance and trading my Irish Safe Pass card which is the equivalent of the CSCS Card and found that most employers are looking for the JIB card.. Is the JIB and the ECS the same thing and what criteria is required for either??

Any answers would be much appreciated thanks

Dave the Spark

Hi Dave,

I realise that this is an old thread but I'm in a similar situation.

I'm an Irish qualified electrician and I'm looking to work in the oil & gas industry (onshore). At the moment I'm looking at a Compex course (£1000), IPAF course (£300), 17th Edition (£450), CCNSG (£220), and JIB (?) so the bills are really starting to mount up.

What did you need to do to get the JIB Card? I'm hoping I can get away without having to do one or two of the above courses.

Any help much appreciated.

 

[chris N.I]

It depends what grade of electricians card you are applying for.The best thing for you to do is to check out JIB's website.On there you will find out what qual's,cert's and courses you need etc for each card.

 

[Nipex83]

Hi lledlledlled the cost of them courses ar crazy there is lads on here a year later still trying to find work in oil/gas after spending crazy money on compex mist etc

 

[lledlledlled]

Hi lledlledlled the cost of them courses ar crazy there is lads on here a year later still trying to find work in oil/gas after spending crazy money on compex mist etc

They are a big expense alright, and nothing is certain even when they are done. What is certain is that the job prospects for electricians in Ireland are very very poor. From what I've been reading, there is work available for CompEx trained electricians in Aberdeen so I suppose it comes down to a judgement call. Nothing ventured, nothing gained and all that. Paying out for a course is always going to be a risk but surely it helps with employment prospects. As for MIST and other offshore courses, I'm not going to do those until I have a year's O&G experience onshore first so that should limit some of my exposure.

When you say about lads on here who can't get work, are they CompEx trained electricians available for onshore work in Aberdeen?

 

[Nipex83]

Yes all the bells and whistles Certs coming out of there arse...
am I right in saying the compex course is just been thought how to make of connections to explosion proof standards???

 

[lledlledlled]

Yes all the bells and whistles Certs coming out of there arse...
am I right in saying the compex course is just been thought how to make of connections to explosion proof standards???

From training provider:
[h=2]Course Overview[/h]
The course provides competence based training and assessment for electrical and instrument technicians working in hazardous areas. Practical training and assessment takes place within a realistic simulated working environment which allows operatives to meet national competence standards.
[h=2]Course Content[/h]

• General principles, ignition properties and apparatus protection
• Standards, Certification and marking
• Flameproof Ex’d’ protection
• Increased safety Ex’e’,
• Type Ex’n’ protection
• Pressurisation Ex‘px’, Ex’py’ and Ex’pz’ protection
• Intrinsic safety Ex ‘ia', 'ib' and 'ic' protection
• Other methods of protection, Ex’o’, Ex’q’ and Ex’m’
• Combined (hybrid) methods of protection
• Wiring systems, enclosure entries, cable glanding and earthing
• Inspection and maintenance to BS / IEC 60079-17
• Sources of ignition
• Induction to competence validation testing
• Permit to work system and safe isolation
• Practical Assessment

[h=2]Target Audience[/h]
Personnel with an electrical or instrument background involved in the selection, installation, inspection and maintenance of electrical/instrumentation equipment for use in potentially hazardous areas onshore and offshore.

 

[lledlledlled]

Yes all the bells and whistles Certs coming out of there arse...
am I right in saying the compex course is just been thought how to make of connections to explosion proof standards???

I think the general consensus (on this site anyway) is that there is a shortage of electricians in the UK oil & gas industry. To get offshore, you'll need the certs, o&g experience, and be prepared to pester every oil company you can. To get onshore work, you need CompEx. I'm not 100% sure how us Irish lads are fixed regarding our qualifications being recognised but that's another day's work and will probably involve a 17th Edition exam to get a JIB Card.

It really does seem to be a long hard road but it'd be worth it if you got offshore a year later, if that's what you want to do.

 

[Nipex83]

Compex course sounds interesting.. I got a very small taste of that sort of wiring rules in hazards areas, we were wiring up a new petrol station in dublin but before any electrical connections were made off we had to sit through a induction for 4 hours while a engineer explained about all that sort of thing about hazardous fuel dust build up that could explode due to a arc inside a electrical fitting etc etc