L.P.G filling station

[reynard116]

Does the lighting within an LPG filling station area have to be of a certain type? I have been told explosion proof but this sounds stupid to me as if there was an explosion in the area, lighting doesn't really matter. This is to be located next to an outside LPG pump for fillg fork lift trucks. Many thanks

 

[Former Sponsor TM]

It could be considered an explosive environment and fall under ATEX classification. I'd highly recommend contacting the HSE for further details on the following: Link

 

[ian.settle1]

Does the lighting within an LPG filling station area have to be of a certain type? I have been told explosion proof but this sounds stupid to me as if there was an explosion in the area, lighting doesn't really matter. This is to be located next to an outside LPG pump for fillg fork lift trucks. Many thanks

When fittings are said to be explosive proof it does not mean that when 10 pounds of semtex goes up they will survive, it means that they are totally enclosed and should a spark occur within the fitting it will not CAUSE an explosion in the atmoshere in the local area around the fitting.

 

[Giovanni]

PMSL.....!!!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM........................................The dust settles, and the lights survived! DA DAHHHHH....

 

[reynard116]

PMSL.....!!!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM........................................The dust settles, and the lights survived! DA DAHHHHH....

lol that was my point. But the other 2 posts have helped me out.

 

[Giovanni]

it was just the wording pal....Did make me laugh though, I had a vision of it......SERIOUS LIGHTS, LIGHTS FOR MEN! ha ha

 

[reynard116]

The job was given to one of the other lads and he was banging on about explosion proof etc. I said exactly the same thing to him as Giovannis point.

This is going to cost a stupid amount of money just for a little light.

 

[Giovanni]

It costs what it costs, if that's what the job needs, then they'll have to pay regardless who does it!

Failing that buy the workforce headtorches!

 

[Giovanni]

The switches are roughly about 40 notes each, and lights a couple of hundred, depending on spec, or there abouts, from what I remember...

 

[benji]

last one,s i fitted were approx £1,000 each made by victor products

 

[Giovanni]

They must be big mothers? I know I did a tube fitting, not the biggest granted, but that was a good couple of hundred I seem to recall, and I'm not that old, I didn't buy it in old money ! lol

 

[mogga]

Heres a wee sugestion WHY would it require EX Fittings ???
1 its in an EX Zone
2 its in the spec
If its 1 couldnt you design lighting so that it falls outwith the EX Zone? ( AS testy guy says consult HSE or local Trading standards as they issue liscence for filling stations for advice) dramaticaly reduce costings
if its 2 then your stuck and need to hope the client doesnt have a heart attack when you give them the price
the headlamps would need to be intrinsicaly safe EX btw

 

[Engineer54]

The job was given to one of the other lads and he was banging on about explosion proof etc. I said exactly the same thing to him as Giovannis point.

This is going to cost a stupid amount of money just for a little light.

I take it then, that you have no experience of ATEX or any other form of hazardous area's, otherwise you wouldn't be making light (not a pun) of what is required in such areas. As Giovanni stated, ''It costs what it costs'', and it's not a stupid amount of money!!!

LPG is a ''VERY'' volatile substance, with a very high explosive force when ignited. So it's not just a case of bunging a normal light fitting in at an LPG filling station. Just as well they gave the job to that other lad in the circumstances, he seemed to understand the hazards a little more than you do.

 

[tonys]

Another reason why this industry is shot to pieces

 

[somersetsparks]

Not sure if you would class an lpg filling station as an EX enviroment really, Lpg is not as dangerous as petrol, Vehicles are filled closed loop so virtually no gas escapes at all. The tanks are pressurised and there is no requirements for EX wiring accessorys on LPG cars themselves?

Interesting question really, definately something I would check with HSE before going any further!