LED Ceiling panel light switching on in standby mode (on the 4th switch on)

[digsie]

So it's a live wire, and you've identified it as a neutral?
I take it the joint on the other end of this black wire is in a suitable enclosure?

In effect yes, but the only person I was identifying it to was myself, and again I didn't have any red tape either, only blue.
Yeah I checked the breaker to find it's a 6a, so I used a 5a chocolate block, which I also covered in the same blue tape before shoving back into the ceiling cavity.

I know folks here are likely to be pro electricians frowning at my methods & misuse of colours, but really I just wanted to know if anyone had come across the issue in the original post before.
Most of you would probably faint if you saw what the rest of this houses electrical cabling looked like, I mean just the feeds from the fuse boards are comical.
Brb gonna go take a pic so you can see what I mean.

 

[digsie]

This was the handy work of trician #2, and at that he had to do the job twice 'cos he put the board slap bang in the back doors path, so you couldn't close it.
I got back home to a good giggle and called him back out to shift it all again.
I only have to put up with this system for another 3 years max, then we'll be moving on anyway, so I'm not too fussed about causing any headaches over legalities of it all.
I'm just baffled as to what is causing these two separate light fittings with different ballasts to have the same issue, it makes no sense to me.

 

[DPG]

In effect yes, but the only person I was identifying it to was myself, and again I didn't have any red tape either, only blue.
Yeah I checked the breaker to find it's a 6a, so I used a 5a chocolate block, which I also covered in the same blue tape before shoving back into the ceiling cavity.

I know folks here are likely to be pro electricians frowning at my methods & misuse of colours, but really I just wanted to know if anyone had come across the issue in the original post before.
Most of you would probably faint if you saw what the rest of this houses electrical cabling looked like, I mean just the feeds from the fuse boards are comical.
Brb gonna go take a pic so you can see what I mean.

When someone else touches your handywork and gets electrocuted, you will be the one to blame. Your attitude is scary.

 

[digsie]

These light fittings will be coming with me, and the originals going back up before I leave this place.
Nobody else is likely to be touching them at all, so please have no fear of my scary attitude, I'm wholly realistic of the situation, not playing on ifs...buts...& fantasies, nevermind any "when's".

 

[freddo]

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What on earth is that?!

 

[digsie]

What on earth is that

The standard of work in this area, and folks worry about me electrocuting others hehe, anyone who touches any of the wiring in this house needs to have Bear Grylls survival skills 'cos we're all out to electrocute each other.
I don't profess to be an expert electrician, but as far as DIYers go, I think I could have done a better job, even if I did use whatever I had available.
I will box it in one day, when I'm in the mood.

 

[westward10]

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This was the handy work of trician #2, and at that he had to do the job twice 'cos he put the board slap bang in the back doors path, so you couldn't close it.
I got back home to a good giggle and called him back out to shift it all again.
I only have to put up with this system for another 3 years max, then we'll be moving on anyway, so I'm not too fussed about causing any headaches over legalities of it all.
I'm just baffled as to what is causing these two separate light fittings with different ballasts to have the same issue, it makes no sense to me.

Is that a supposed electricians work or yours.

 

[digsie]

Is that a supposed electricians work or yours.

Definitely not mine, I'd have at least taped each joint & block up, and boxed it up.
Nope not guilty, this was electrician #2, it was done about 6 years ago, but again nobody is ever going to go near it, so I've had no incentive to box it up.

 

[westward10]

You need to insist your landlord undertakes an EICR in accordance with the law.

 

[digsie]

You need to insist your landlord undertakes an EICR in accordance with the law.

Yup I sure will, right before I want his eviction notice, then it'll give me a get out of jail free card.
Until then it's a convenience thing to just look the other way.

 

[pirate]

I'm shaking my head...and feeling rather despondent
It's like going o KwikFit to get a puncture repaired and the mechanic points out that there's a split in a brake pipe and the fluid is leaking out...
"Never mind that, just fix my puncture, I need to head off to Dover cos I've a ferry to catch"

 

[DPG]

The standard of work in this area, and folks worry about me electrocuting others hehe, anyone who touches any of the wiring in this house needs to have Bear Grylls survival skills 'cos we're all out to electrocute each other.
I don't profess to be an expert electrician, but as far as DIYers go, I think I could have done a better job, even if I did use whatever I had available.
I will box it in one day, when I'm in the mood.

It may be in a bad state already, but even you must realise that it is not a good idea to make it even worse by doing what you have done. Surely?

 

[digsie]

I'm shaking my head...and feeling rather despondent
It's like going o KwikFit to get a puncture repaired and the mechanic points out that there's a split in a brake pipe and the fluid is leaking out...
"Never mind that, just fix my puncture, I need to head off to Dover cos I've a ferry to catch"

The mechanic isn't likely to go making you homeless before you reach Dover.
Insisting on checks is likely to do that, and getting the council to come and enforce it is likely to have the building condemned and do that too.

But I see that this thread isn't about sorting my issue, but instead more about attacking me, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

[digsie]

It may be in a bad state already, but even you must realise that it is not a good idea to make it even worse by doing what you have done. Surely?

More or less dangerous than the metal chassis of the fluorescent light fitting that was already up there?

 

[DPG]

More or less dangerous than the metal chassis of the fluorescent light fitting that was already up there?

Possibly more dangerous if they are cheap fittings.