Led dimming ..shine some light for me

daiplayer · Aug 12, 2014

Can anybody shine some light on LED dimming.

I realise that led dimmers have a different rating for dimming LED bulbs ....( eg : 10w -100w) as a pose to the usual 400W..

But whats this leading and trailing edge all about ?

for example i am designing to put in a load of led's .....( 6 per room ) that need dimming...( 6 x 9w 54watt per room) ...

so what dimmer is needed for 6 of these :- LED Group | Catalogue Lighting and Electrical Distributors

cheers all :-/

telectrix · Aug 12, 2014

your best bet is to get the dimmers at the same place as the lamps. then you won't get 1 supplier blaming the other when they don't dim right.

nickblake · Aug 12, 2014

railing edge dimmers (as opposed to leading edge, or triac dimmers) turn off the electrical load at the end, or trailing edge, of the AC input waveform. They control the power to the load by varying the duty cycle (the ratio of on time to on+off time) of the voltage to the load, the same as leading edge or triac dimmers. Cutting off the trailing edge of the waveform allows compatibility with electric loads that are either resistive or capacitive in nature (as opposed to leading edge dimmers which are compatible with resistive and inductive loads). Trailing edge dimmers are more complex than other dimmers, and are usually implemented using back-to-back power FETs (n-channel enhancement-mode MOSFETS with their source terminals connected together, the gates connected together, and the drain terminals acting as the two power terminals). The FETs have an intrinsic body diode which means they always conduct in one direction. Putting two FETs together as described allows current flow to be controlled in either direction (with no gate signal, both FETs are off, and the body diodes allow no current flow either. If one FET is gated on, the current can flow through that FET and the body diode of the other FET).

Trailing edge dimmers are designed to fade the voltage to zero rather than switch it abruptly off, by applying a resistance to create a ramp rather than a "cliff." This greatly reduces interfering electrical and radio emissions. It also increases the amount of heat dissipated, since the resistive period generates heat. Most trailing edge dimmers contain thermal monitors that can adjust the ramp if too much heat is being generated.

ayjay · Aug 12, 2014

c/p from wiki?

daiplayer · Aug 12, 2014

nickblake said:
railing edge dimmers (as opposed to leading edge, or triac dimmers) turn off the electrical load at the end, or trailing edge, of the AC input waveform. They control the power to the load by varying the duty cycle (the ratio of on time to on+off time) of the voltage to the load, the same as leading edge or triac dimmers. Cutting off the trailing edge of the waveform allows compatibility with electric loads that are either resistive or capacitive in nature (as opposed to leading edge dimmers which are compatible with resistive and inductive loads). Trailing edge dimmers are more complex than other dimmers, and are usually implemented using back-to-back power FETs (n-channel enhancement-mode MOSFETS with their source terminals connected together, the gates connected together, and the drain terminals acting as the two power terminals). The FETs have an intrinsic body diode which means they always conduct in one direction. Putting two FETs together as described allows current flow to be controlled in either direction (with no gate signal, both FETs are off, and the body diodes allow no current flow either. If one FET is gated on, the current can flow through that FET and the body diode of the other FET).

Trailing edge dimmers are designed to fade the voltage to zero rather than switch it abruptly off, by applying a resistance to create a ramp rather than a "cliff." This greatly reduces interfering electrical and radio emissions. It also increases the amount of heat dissipated, since the resistive period generates heat. Most trailing edge dimmers contain thermal monitors that can adjust the ramp if too much heat is being generated.

of course.... :6: