Level 2 electrical installation course

[Matter]

Is this course worthwhile doing to gain electrical knowledge? Has anyone studied it before? Level 2 electrical installation

 

[Matter]

There is an experienced worker route, which has previously been mentioned in this thread.

What wasn't mentioned is the fact that a minimum of 5 years demonstrable experience is required, before anyone can even be considered for that.

Thanks and how do you demonstrate that? The level 2 diapolma route doesnt set my heart elight with the health and safety and communication sections I have done all this with my plumbing nvqs. I get the impression, correct me if I'm wrong that it's for people with no experience in the building trades what so ever and a pre course to help one get an apprentice. Again sorry if I'm wrong there. But I would really like to get in to the industry. So if that's the only route I guess it is.

 

[swaRRR]

So how did you get qualified/ gain experience?

Got a job as a mate. Got some experience plus my 18th and moved up to improver.

 

[swaRRR]

Within the same 5 year time frame you could have completed a full apprenticeship and have a year time served under your belt.

I've said on here before, which went down like a lead balloon but idc, that if you can do basic electrics you can fluff up your CV to get a mate's job.

£15/hr rather than £4-odd an hour for the first year then minimum wage. It's literally a 60 grand difference in terms of wages.

 

[Matter]

I've said on here before, which went down like a lead balloon but idc, that if you can do basic electrics you can fluff up your CV to get a mate's job.

£15/hr rather than £4-odd an hour for the first year then minimum wage. It's literally a 60 grand difference in terms of wages.

So if you do the basic electrics course i.e the level 2 electrical installation you can get the higher rate as a mate?

 

[swaRRR]

So if you do the basic electrics course i.e the level 2 electrical installation you can get the higher rate as a mate?

No i'm saying you can get more money instantly just by being interested in the trade, knowing some basics, getting your 18th edition and then getting out as a mate. Then learn by experience since as a mate nobody expects you to know what you're doing but you get more respect and money than an apprentice. It's kinda like an apprenticeship in that you're allowed to make mistakes and pitch in with stuff you're good at but you're always learning, only you're not bound to one company for 4 years and you don't have to go to college/be on crap money.

Modern apprenticeships are nothing but cheap labour. See the 'apprenticeships' in the service industry for examples, where apparently you need to fill in a portfolio to be able to serve food and wipe down tables.

 

[davesparks]

Then learn by experience since as a mate nobody expects you to know what you're doing but you get more respect and money than an apprentice. It's kinda like an apprenticeship in that you're allowed to make mistakes and pitch in with stuff you're good at

Yes there is more money in being a mate than an apprentice, until the apprentice qualifies and starts earning more.

If you've found work as a mate and have received all the necessary training to become an electrician then you are very lucky. An electricians mate is traditionally a labourer and not a trainee and wouldn't expect to receive the training needed to become an electrican.

Obviously the mate would get trained in some elements, the more day to day basics of installation work, working with containment, pulling cables etc. But not much of the theory, science, testing, fault finding or even connecting up anything much more than basic lights, sockets and maybe single phase DBs.

Modern apprenticeships are nothing but cheap labour.

Having served a modern apprenticeship I can assure you that this is not always the case.
Yes it does happen, unfortunately it always has and probably always will, but that does not mean that all apprenticeships are bad.

 

[nicebutdim]

Having served a modern apprenticeship I can assure you that this is not always the case.
Yes it does happen, unfortunately it always has and probably always will, but that does not mean that all apprenticeships are bad.

Serving a modern apprenticeship as an adult learner has been a great experience from day one and I've never had cause to complain about rates of pay.

 

[Matter]

Thanks for all the responses. Can I ask at one point was the level 2 in electrical installation partially funded? I know someone who paid £600 for it but that was like 10years ago. Is now £1635 at my local college. Thanks

 

[Lister1987]

Thanks for all the responses. Can I ask at one point was the level 2 in electrical installation partially funded? I know someone who paid £600 for it but that was like 10years ago. Is now £1635 at my local college. Thanks

I don't believe that level 2 had any top level funding (unlike the L3 2365/8203-30 had/has), there may have been local subsidies, I know my local college covered the costs of me ne due to low income but I imagine such a scheme would be local/regional.

 

[swaRRR]

Thanks for all the responses. Can I ask at one point was the level 2 in electrical installation partially funded? I know someone who paid £600 for it but that was like 10years ago. Is now £1635 at my local college. Thanks

If you're on the dole it's free. If you work it's very expensive. Level 3 at my local college is over £3.5k and takes a year. For comparison, if you go to a training provider down in Dartford you can get Level 2 and 3 for £4.5k and do the lot in 5 weeks practical in centre, study the book in your own time for the exams.

 

[Matter]

I don't believe that level 2 had any top level funding (unlike the L3 2365/8203-30 had/has), there may have been local subsidies, I know my local college covered the costs of me ne due to low income but I imagine such a scheme would be local/regional.

Thanks maybe the price has just gone up over the years. Not sure whether I would get funded for the level 3. As I think I read it's if you haven't already got A levels or a level 3. I already have a level 3 in plumbing.

 

[Lister1987]

Thanks maybe the price has just gone up over the years. Not sure whether I would get funded for the level 3. As I think I read it's if you haven't already got A levels or a level 3. I already have a level 3 in plumbing.

Not sure, I already held a level 3 qualification (National Diploma Animal Management from 2005) but still qualified for the level 2 funding, my level 3 however I used an adult learner loan

 

[Matter]

How much was the level 3 in electrical? 2 year course

 

[swaRRR]

How much was the level 3 in electrical? 2 year course

I'd budget £5k for it. Also you need to get in gear if you want to start - college started this week. You'll still be able to get inducted if you hurry.

 

[Matter]

I'd budget £5k for it. Also you need to get in gear if you want to start - college started this week. You'll still be able to get inducted if you hurry.

I have been searching for somewhere to do the level 3 on an evening noone seems to offer it around here.

I'd budget £5k for it. Also you need to get in gear if you want to start - college started this week. You'll still be able to get inducted if you hurry.

Thanks yes I know. I'm struggling to make a decision on it I want to get into electrics as I think the growth potential in the industry over the next couple of decades is huge. The problem being no college offers the level 3 on an evening. Or at all around here. My local college only offers the level 2. Does this open many doors on its own?