level 3 same as Parts 1&2 236??

[sparky3366]

Is NVQ level 3 the equivalent of the 236 parts 1&2? The reason I ask is that an agency I am working for does not recognise the 236 any more and has said to put my wages back up, I would need the 2330(?). As it is, the have reduced my wage by £1 an hour because of it...:death:

 

[Risteard]

NVQ Level 3 is a qualification in its own right. 236/2360/2351/2330 are technical certificates and therefore equivalents of each other. It doesn't make sense to suggest that you should be doing the technical certificate again.

NVQ is 2356, and before that was 2355.

 

[Guest123]

I'd say that's just another scumbag agency trying to screw an honest spark for all they can.

As Risteard said, you have the technical cert albeit from an earlier time, so they have no recourse to dock your wages whatsoever.

 

[Glen Stimson]

didn't they make the AC theory exams easier and as such rename the qual to 2330.

 

[johnboy6083]

didn't they make the AC theory exams easier and as such rename the qual to 2330.

they did mate. Before anybody jumps down my throat, ive taken the exams for both. The reason is that i was originally in the Royal Corps of Engineers, and studied the 236 part 1 and 2, both at the same time. In the army, you do not get any qualifications, unless you pass absolutely evrything, including the AM2. I crashed my car before the AM2, and left with nothnibg. I then worked for a few years, before taking the exams to the 2330. the 2330 is definatley easie. No questions on spcific heating capacity, heting times ect. also batteries and geneartors are not covered, in any great depth.

 

[ackbarthestar]

JB6083,
Its good that somebody recognizes the elephant sitting on the sofa,
I studied the 236 the eventually went on to teach 2360, 2351, 2356, 2330 and unfortunately the exam criteria are shadows of the original. That can only mean that we are supposed to except smoke and mirrors
However, the redeeming factor of the 2357 is the NVQ requirement. The 236 had a log book/work placement element, which mean't you couldn't do the theory without the apprenticeship. (it used to be indentured !)
I must admit that I sneaked in at the end of the 236 when the CITB was disintegrating and the JIB was well and truly up itself.
I never did the apprenticeship because I was regarded as something better ( A levels). but you never know how life takes you and I've now been in the electrical industry for the last 27 years.

 

[Engineer54]

Is NVQ level 3 the equivalent of the 236 parts 1&2? The reason I ask is that an agency I am working for does not recognise the 236 any more and has said to put my wages back up, I would need the 2330(?). As it is, the have reduced my wage by £1 an hour because of it...:death:

Get something in writing from the C&G institute or other recognised authority stating that the newer course numbers are equivalent of your certificate. How a bloody agencey can just come out with crap like this i don't know, not with out some sort of official confirmation, that we all know just isn't there!!! It's really not their place, NOT to recognise... They surely have no say in what is a nationally recognised qualification!!

 

[brucelee]

when i was doing my apprenticeship in 86 the things i had to learn were went into the subjects a lot more in depth
now they give you a hand out read through it and maybe 1 sample calc thats it that part of the outcome done

I cant believe this is what they think is enough
we used to do 4 week at work 6 week at college and studied physics , maths , related sciences as well as a few other subjects now its print yourself a copy of a handout and thats it

when i was doing 2391 last year in the time i have been doing 2330 lv3 so far i had covered a great deal more in a lot less time and learned a bette runderstanding of what was involved
suppose i am just going to have to learn it myself to understand the science and things fully

i am a bit gutted and expected more

they should return the quals back to what they were then everyone would have to pass the same quals and learn everything required theoretically and practically
instead of half baked quals they are ripping everyone of with