Main cut-out fuse and meter location?

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Ponty Massive

May sound like a strange question. Is it necessary for the main cut-out fuse to be locate next to the meter? The reason for my question, I was looking to move my meter to the other side of the wall and was given a rough price of £700 to move the service head (about 3 feet away).

If the meter could be placed on the other side of the wall and the service head left in place, this could solve all my problems.
 
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Ponty Massive said:
May sound like a strange question. Is it necessary for the main cut-out fuse to be locate next to the meter? The reason for my question, I was looking to move my meter to the other side of the wall and was given a rough price of £700 to move the service head (about 3 feet away).

If the meter could be placed on the other side of the wall and the service head left in place, this could solve all my problems.
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Not 100% sure, BUT, (in my experience for the council in leeds)in blocks of flats that have say 10 properties in, the cutout and meters are sometimes in a cupboard under the stairs, the cutout on 1 side and big 150x150 trunking running round the room containing the tails to the meters, which subsequently fed 60A Switched Fused Isolators up to the flats. The furthest meter could have been 6m away.
 
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At the end of the day Ponty all you can do is ask, we’re just guessing.
I can see no difference to the situation of a flat. But the Lord (DNO/Supply Companies) work in strange and wondrous ways.
 
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If the tails are less than 3m I can't see a problem. If they are longer stick in an 80A switch fuse by the meter and away you go. I don't think the supplier will lie you messing with their meter, they're funny like that

oops..mis read the post..I think nowadays they want the meter as close as possible to the head to avoid little scamps pinching some unmetered juice.
 
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everything before the outgoing tails belongs to the DNO SO fitting an switch fuse would need the DNO as would moving the meter ect your between a rock n a hard place There was a thread about somone whos builder wanted them to shift the meter n If memory serves me correctly a reply told story about someone being blasted across the room even when knowing what he was doing due to the condicion of the DNO Cable
 
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Got a job at the moment where the cutout and meter are about 7 or 8 metres apart....no proper tails either just VIR insulated twin about 10mm.. However both the meter and the cutout have been changed in recent years so it would appear that there is no hard and fast rule here..
 
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Just shove one of these in as an extra to extend and save a few bob
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As you may know,in the valleys there were quite a lot of installs, in the terraced houses, where the cut out is at the front door,the tails run under the boards, and the meter and fuse board at the top end of the hall,some may have been diy jobs,but there were too many for them not to be suppliers jobbies
 
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The real problem here is not so much the distance between cut out and meter but the size and condition of the cable linking them....it's equivalent to 10mm T&E and insulated with VIR.....the supply company have now said they will come and have a look... Interesting what you were saying re valley etc..the supply comes in on overhead looped from adjacent property which in turn is looped from another property...a right bloody mess with high level joints on eaves etc etc.
 
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Ok then, just to throw it out there, what about moving the meter yourself? (Small digital one)
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The only people allowed to move your meter are the DNO or Supply Company, if you move the meter yourself or you get an elcectrician to move it, they will prosicute you.
Meter should be located as close as posible to the cutout / main fuse.

Hope this is helpful
Meterman
 
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Meterman said:
The only people allowed to move your meter are the DNO or Supply Company, if you move the meter yourself or you get an elcectrician to move it, they will prosicute you.
Meter should be located as close as posible to the cutout / main fuse.

Hope this is helpful
Meterman
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you may have the authority but whos more qualified pal!!!
 
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you may have the authority but whos more qualified pal!!!
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20 years as an electrical design engineer and meter installation engineer working on all meters from domestic installation to HIGH VOLTAGE 11Kv +. Who is more qualified pal!!! ?.
 
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I just looked at Metermans post and it seemed reasonable enough to me
Meterman said:
The only people allowed to move your meter are the DNO or Supply Company
No dispute with that statement whatsoever
If you move the meter yourself or you get an elcectrician to move it, they will prosicute you.
That may happen,if they become aware that the the work was carried out by others,not guarenteed
Meter should be located as close as posible to the cutout / main fuse
No dispute with that statement
Hope this is helpful
Meterman
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.It seems you are in a strong position to provide the sensible advise :yes:
We people working on the load side should sometimes respect the skill that gets the supply to us in the first instance :flowers:
 
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We had our own estate supplied from the works. About 60 square miles, which was taken over by the DNO (Electricity board NWEB and EMEB then).

The cut-outs were very useful for the odd “foreigner” job that came along. Around the area I would guess 50% of household supplies would be OH. Surprising how many supplies got up rated. All with the correct DNO seal. (That’s another story)!
 
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If the customer would pay we would fit these new “fangled RCCD’s”.
Crabtree or Hackbridge Faraday 500mA. State of the ark then! Earth rods went missing from stores as well.
 
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Tony said:
sedgy, cut you're losses and stop making a fool of yourself
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you may have a fair point, however my experience with metering tell me otherwise they dont know what they are doing. had a meter guy once ask me that is 3 phase isnt it!!!! also on another job a meter guy energised a new installation to check if electric was on!!! see where im coming from tony.
these examples carry on 2day course and you can go and mess with 100amps (authorised by supplier)
allbeit this guy is far more experienced than most
 
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