necessary qualifications for starting your own firm

[isitnow]

Hi just wondering about necessary qualifications needed for starting your own firm.

I have my 2330, 17th edition and my 2391 inspection and testing.

Do I need to have part p? or need to register as niceic? or am i qualified enough aslong as i register the business correctly.?
I dont need any comments advising me theres a recession on i appreciate the concern as i dont intend to work full time for my self but between agency work and for doing odd jobs id like to do it properly.

Also i know the part p qualification the one aimed at plumbers and other tradesman designed for them to do minor works allows them to sign off work, ive spoken to many college tutors in the past who disagree with the course and refuse to teach it saying it is a loophole in the industry? Having my 2391 id be dissappointed if i had to sit the course just to sign work off.

any help people?

 

[High Tower]

There are a lot of people that will tell you that there is no such thing as a part p qual, what your referring to is the domestic installer course.

You tho do not need to consider this, you are more than qualified, as you have the same quals as me, you will be fine becoming DI/Approved with the NICEIC. the hard part is navigating the minefield that is HMRC

 

[Octopus]

To be able to sign off and notify your own work you'll need to be Part P registered.

Elecsa, Napit, NICEIC or Stroma

Whether you're a sole trader or a Ltd business is irrelevent!

 

[Guest123]

Self certification of work in domestic premises in accordance with approved document p, requires you to be a member of one of the part p scheme providers.....NIC, Napit, Elecsa etc. This will cost you £350 - £450 per year depending on who you go with.

You can also use the LABC but the charges for this vary wildly from £60 to £300.

 

[isitnow]

To be able to sign off and notify your own work you'll need to be Part P registered.

Elecsa, Napit, NICEIC or Stroma

Whether you're a sole trader or a Ltd business is irrelevent!

Ah so these are the "scams" which have to be paid to be registered that i hear people talking about on the forums is that right? I recognise the niceic from vans driving around any reccomendation of which of the schemes mentioned is the best one?

 

[SW1970]

Hi just wondering about necessary qualifications needed for starting your own firm.

... i dont intend to work full time for my self but between agency work and for doing odd jobs id like to do it properly...

any help people?

Even bearing that in mind, an appreciation of profit & loss, allowable expenses, sales & marketing, costing & pricing, customer management and most importantly, dealing with the public.

Which scheme is best is an old chestnut. Research them yourself and make your own decision.

 

[High Tower]

the general consensus on here is Elecsa is the better but NICEIC has the best identity and brand recognition so i went for them

 

[isitnow]

Self certification of work in domestic premises in accordance with approved document p, requires you to be a member of one of the part p scheme providers.....NIC, Napit, Elecsa etc. This will cost you £350 - £450 per year depending on who you go with.

You can also use the LABC but the charges for this vary wildly from £60 to £300.

the schemes you mention are im assuming yearly fees for being registered in them.

But whats the Labc is that kind of a one off per quote scheme?

 

[High Tower]

Yearly membership fee with the schemes or £300 per job completed to LABC

 

[Deleted member 19807]

the schemes you mention are im assuming yearly fees for being registered in them.

But whats the Labc is that kind of a one off per quote scheme?

Labc is your local building control and you would pay a fee for each notifiable job you did, its a flat fee so a £5,000 rewire will cost you the same as a £40 new socket in a kitchen.

to answer your original question, you do not need any qualifications to start your own business. However you will have a problem competing if you can not sign off your own work.

 

[Octopus]

Ah so these are the "scams" which have to be paid to be registered that i hear people talking about on the forums is that right? I recognise the niceic from vans driving around any reccomendation of which of the schemes mentioned is the best one?

You may think of them as scams but there are many people here who are members of the schemes and are able to sign off their own work and notify for a couple of pounds.

Think about it. If you don't join a scheme, and you do say 3 jobs, where you notify LABC and pay their fees you will have already paid more than joining up.

Some people think of them as scams but as a member of Elecsa, I rate them and about once a month I consult their technical bods who are great.

When you're doing your sums don't forget about the public liability insurance too!

 

[isitnow]

You may think of them as scams but there are many people here who are members of the schemes and are able to sign off their own work and notify for a couple of pounds.

Think about it. If you don't join a scheme, and you do say 3 jobs, where you notify LABC and pay their fees you will have already paid more than joining up.

Some people think of them as scams but as a member of Elecsa, I rate them and about once a month I consult their technical bods who are great.

When you're doing your sums don't forget about the public liability insurance too!

I don't consider them scams as i have no experience or opinion yet just saying that ive seen a lot of people reffer to them as scams on this site. I did email the niceic a few months ago and the sent me an information pack but you mentioned the elecsa being good and judging by the general comments they sound pretty good, Yes including the annual fees and the insurance ill have to do the sums to see if its worth starting up a part time firm

 

[JamesBrownLive]

the general consensus on here is Elecsa is the better but NICEIC has the best identity and brand recognition so i went for them

NICEIC used to have a requirement that you had to have been trading for at least 12 months before you could apply to join, given that they are in competition with other schemes that don't have that requirement, I'm not sure if they still insist on it??
If they do then obviously the OP will need to go with someone else.