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Hi all,

I am looking for a bit of guidance from you kind people.

A friend of mine has recently moved into a new house and had a local sparky out to add sockets in various rooms as there was a very limited number. These are all spurs from doubles on the ring main. He has also fitted a new consumer unit. The sockets are on a single 32A MCB which covers the entirity of sockets in the property.

He is now embarking on a new kitchen. The existing one has only 1 x double socket in and a 6mm cable clipped to the outside of the wall for the cooker.

So being an Industrial electrician myself he has asked me to help him as his budget is now very tight and the electrician he used before does not seem to want the work at the moment.

Firstly do I need to inform building control that this work is being carried out?

Secondly I am thinking of running a new ring from the consumer unit (located next to the kitchen) to supply 4 x double sockets, a cooker hood, washing machine and dishwasher. The existing 6mm cable for the cooker I will use for the new ceramic hob. Can I use for the oven as well (depending on it's load requirement?) or would the oven be best as part of the ring?

I had intended on running the new ring to the 4 x double sockets then to 20A switches with neons above worktop going to 13A FCU's for the cooker hood and oven. For the washing machine and dishwasher i was again planning on having these as part of the ring main going to 20A switches with neons above worktop then going to single unswitched sockets under worktop.

Does this sound ok or should I be doing it differently?

I assume I can clip cable directly to the wall behind the new kitchen cabinets and then chase behind the worktop up the wall to new sockets, switches etc? Or does trunking still need to be used?

When chasing the wall what depth should i go to and does the cable need to be protected in the channel or can it be directly plastered/filled over?

Also if I can find an NICEIC electrician who is willing to check/supervise the work and issue a part p compliant cert then do building control still need to attend to see 1st and 2nd fixes etc?

Any help would be much appreciated

DJ
 
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Hi mate,

I'm an Elecsa registered contractor, where abouts are you.

What you are intending to do sounds OK, however a kitchen is a special location so Building regs notification applies.

Your questions are plentiful and i dont have a problem with that, but to answer them all i would be typing all night, my best recommendation i can give you is to go and buy the 17Th edition ON Site Guide, this will give you all the info you need regarding zones, depth of chases, RCD requirements etc etc, and what you can extend and what you cant, as an Industrial sparky you will be able to understand it easily and its only about ÂŁ16. Also worth a look is the Electricians Guide to the Building regs, again about ÂŁ16.

As a registered contractor if you are local i wouldn't have a problem overseeing the job and signing off etc, as you seem to know your stuff.;)

Cheers..........Howard
 
Hi Howard,

Thanks for your reply. I am based in Winchester but my friends house is in Farnham. I think you're in Leeds so a bit far away, thanks for the offer though.

I will look up those books and buy them today, I'm sure RS do them and I can get them through my company.

Once again thanks.

Duncan
 

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