New pole barn wiring help

[skdill]

Hey all!

Just got a new pole barn installed and have a few questions regarding getting power to it. Don't worry! I am planning on hiring a professional I just need to get a game plan for the budget and expectations.

I will start with some basics.
200A main panel on my house with 9 open spaces
Approx. 190 wire feet from 200A panel to location of box in the pole barn
Feel free to ask any additional questions. I am sure I am forgetting something. I can supply pictures of current panel if this would help.

List of things I want to power (This is a wish list to help future-proof myself)

	Voltage	Amp Draw		220V Option
1.5 hp Pool Pump	110	12		x
1.75 hp Table Saw	110	14		x
2 hp Compressor	110	14
Mini Split	110	10		x
Miter Saw	110	20
Floor QuickJack	110	15
Dust Collector	110	12		x
Router	110	10
LED Garage Lights	110	7
2 Garage Door Opener (Each)	110	6
Air filter	110	1

Questions I have

Is this even possible with my current 200A setup? If not, what amp service do I need to upgrade to?

What gauge wire do I need to make this run of almost 200 feet?

In Ohio (or similar area) how deep does this wire need to be buried?



Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!!

 

[skdill]

If anyone can get me solid answers to these questions I will forward you some cash!!

 

[Megawatt]

Hey all!

Just got a new pole barn installed and have a few questions regarding getting power to it. Don't worry! I am planning on hiring a professional I just need to get a game plan for the budget and expectations.

I will start with some basics.
200A main panel on my house with 9 open spaces
Approx. 190 wire feet from 200A panel to location of box in the pole barn
Feel free to ask any additional questions. I am sure I am forgetting something. I can supply pictures of current panel if this would help.

List of things I want to power (This is a wish list to help future-proof myself)

	Voltage	Amp Draw		220V Option
1.5 hp Pool Pump	110	12		x
1.75 hp Table Saw	110	14		x
2 hp Compressor	110	14
Mini Split	110	10		x
Miter Saw	110	20
Floor QuickJack	110	15
Dust Collector	110	12		x
Router	110	10
LED Garage Lights	110	7
2 Garage Door Opener (Each)	110	6
Air filter	110	1

Questions I have

Is this even possible with my current 200A setup? If not, what amp service do I need to upgrade to?

What gauge wire do I need to make this run of almost 200 feet?

In Ohio (or similar area) how deep does this wire need to be buried?



Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!!

Since you have a 200 amp panel with plenty of spaces left, my suggestion would be to install a 100 amp main lug only panel in your pole barn with enough spaces to power up everything that you have on your list. You will need to install a 100 amp double pole GFCI breaker in your main panel as per code to feed your barn. As far as the wire you will need # 3 wire with a ground cable which should be direct burial approved copper cable and as far as depth it needs to be 24 inches deep. Good luck with your project

 

[skdill]

Since you have a 200 amp panel with plenty of spaces left, my suggestion would be to install a 100 amp main lug only panel in your pole barn with enough spaces to power up everything that you have on your list. You will need to install a 100 amp double pole GFCI breaker in your main panel as per code to feed your barn. As far as the wire you will need # 3 wire with a ground cable which should be direct burial approved copper cable and as far as depth it needs to be 24 inches deep. Good luck with your project

Thanks so much Megawatt!

This is 3 AWG wire and not 3/0 wire correct? Where do you buy this? I am only finding 6 AWG UF-B.

Message me your Paypal or Venmo and will send you some money for your answer.

 

[Megawatt]

Thanks so much Megawatt!

This is 3 AWG wire and not 3/0 wire correct? Where do you buy this? I am only finding 6 AWG UF-B.

Message me your Paypal or Venmo and will send you some money for your answer.

I’m not helping you to get paid. This forum is here to help people like yourself get answers for electrical gyrations. Having said that you need 6/3 copper with a ground. Home Depot or Lowe’s sells it by the foot and yes it has to be UF cable for direct burial. Good luck my friend

 

[Megawatt]

I’m not helping you to get paid. This forum is here to help people like yourself get answers for electrical gyrations. Having said that you need 6/3 copper with a ground. Home Depot or Lowe’s sells it by the foot and yes it has to be UF cable for direct burial. Good luck my friend

Dag gone spell checker. It’s to help you with your electrical questions

 

[skdill]

Thanks Megawatt for your help

 

[Megawatt]

Thanks Megawatt for your help

You are quite welcome and that’s what we are here for

 

[littlespark]

Wait until the rest of the lads read that spellcheck error.

electrical gyrations…. Classic.

 

[Megawatt]

Wait until the rest of the lads read that spellcheck error.

electrical gyrations…. Classic.

That is funny, I guess I had a senior moment. Let’s just make it our word of the day?

 

[skdill]

@Megawatt

Quick question - One of the the quotes I got from an electrician recommended an Aluminum wire instead of copper? Any thoughts?

Also I can not find a 100 amp double pole GFCI breaker for a Siemens panel (P4040B1200). The biggest I could find was 60 amps. What should I do?

(Sorry... that was 2 questions)

 

[Megawatt]

@Megawatt

Quick question - One of the the quotes I got from an electrician recommended an Aluminum wire instead of copper? Any thoughts?

Also I can not find a 100 amp double pole GFCI breaker for a Siemens panel (P4040B1200). The biggest I could find was 60 amps. What should I do?

(Sorry... that was 2 questions)

First off I always prefer copper over aluminum but you can use aluminum if you desire and buy the 60 breaker because on a temporary pole you will never even pull 30 amps since it just for plugging in drills, saws etc. if that breaker is not part of the panel you will need a tie down kit. If you have trouble finding it go to your local electrical parts house and buy one. Good luck my friend and if you need anything else please let me know.

 

[Megawatt]

First off I always prefer copper over aluminum but you can use aluminum if you desire and buy the 60 breaker because on a temporary pole you will never even pull 30 amps since it just for plugging in drills, saws etc. if that breaker is not part of the panel you will need a tie down kit. If you have trouble finding it go to your local electrical parts house and buy one. Good luck my friend and if you need anything else please let me know.

One more thing is when you go to the parts house buy an arc flash sticker to install on the panel cover which is by code.