Niceic cert filling in on software programme

[cliffed]

Wondering why they isn’t a Zs box to fill in,& if Connected to origin do not fill in box.
Also altered the Rcd times,now just entering the x5 trip time.
Why is there no N-E insulation reading ,& a L-L entry,which I would take to be L-N.
Just pondering these thoughts,will phone helpline next time in office,but any ideas.

 

[telectrix]

onlyrequired now to enter the RCD x 5 value. L-L is there as it's now considered that N is a "live" conductor. confusing as you'd think L-L would be phase-phase on a 3 phase install.noo idea about the Zs box.

 

[cliffed]

No N-E test then,cheers

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

On the Clik NIC Software???

 

[Ian1981]

You measure Ze at the origin not Zs , hence no Zs box for the origin.
N-E IR tests are covered in the L-E column.
L-E means all live conductors which includes the neutral tested to earth.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

There’s never been a Zs box on the Domestic certificate schedule only on the non domestic. L-L Is L-N, L-E you put the lowest out of L-E or N-E. The neutral is a live conductors. The RCD box you enter the value which is required depending on what the RCD is installed for.

 

[Mike Johnson]

And I wonder who will be the first of any of the scheme's that will bring out a form for an all RCBO board?

 

[cliffed]

And I wonder who will be the first of any of the scheme's that will bring out a form for an all RCBO board?

Thanks?

 

[Ian1981]

They already do, the current certificates allow for any boards, you just have to fill the information In correctly.

 

[cliffed]

We’ve got the niceic guy coming soon any tips on how to deal with him...nice ones please .

 

[Deleted account]

Ask questions? Anything your not sure on. He will appreciate your desire to broaden your knowledge and as long as he is answering he’s not asking.

admit when you don’t know, but give the opinion at what you think may be the right answer.

 

[Taylortwocities]

We’ve got the niceic guy coming soon any tips on how to deal with him...nice ones please .

Tea, Hobnobs - preferably the plain chocolate ones.

 

[Mike Johnson]

They already do, the current certificates allow for any boards, you just have to fill the information In correctly.

Not on the software I have (three different) the content only mentions RCD's and the DB report also has RCD printed on the top of the from, what software do you have that allows this to be altered?

 

[mattg4321]

I’m not seeing the issue??

RCD covers both RCCB’s and RCBO’s.

 

[Mike Johnson]

It's probably the Aspergers kicking in, everything must be correct and in order, to me an RCD does not do the same job as an RCBO therefore should not be listed in the same way.

 

[Deleted account]

An RCD is a residual current device (RCD).
An RCBO is a residual current device (RCD).

both are RCDs

 

[Mike Johnson]

So why do we recommend an all RCBO board and not a all RCD board?

 

[Deleted account]

So why do we recommend an all RCBO board and not a all RCD board?

Not sure what you mean.

 

[Mike Johnson]

No I am sure you don't.

 

[Ian1981]

Rcd is a generic term for a family of devices, rccb, rcbo etc.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Except that in general terms when referring to an RCD most mean a unit without overload protection, but when referring to an RCBO most mean a different type of unit.

 

[Deleted account]

Im agreeing to disagree on this one.

 

[dodger421]

What sort of meltdowns over terminology are we going to experience when AFDD RCBO boards become the norm?

 

[Mike Johnson]

Will AFDD's ever become the norm, or will the manufacturers take the bull by the horns and combine them?

 

[dodger421]

Will AFDD's ever become the norm, or will the manufacturers take the bull by the horns and combine them?

That’s my point. Most that I’ve seen are combined devices, so do we need a new form for a board filled with AFDDRCBO’s as well as a different one for split load boards, and another one for all RCBO boards?

Or can we agree that the current forms have space to record the required information for each part of the device as required and keep on using them?