nicely fried - 9.5kw shower, not certificates for the job

[buzzlightyear]

just got back from a customers ,hoping it a nice job and it was ,customers saying I cant push the isolator to the off position .
off comes the isolator wow that isolators fried ,so 6mm cable in and terminals tight has a ducks a88,now for the shower 9.5 kw .
now what about the rcd for it ,nice new bath room , wait a minute a 50amp so where is the rcd for this none .
looking at the 50amp no rcd, no rcbo and mem board and a wylex mcb . customer when was this fitted 3 months ago . so no test certs .
the customers says a bloke who comes to the local pub ,he does elcertics & plumbing came recommended and done a lot of bath rooms
so any test certs, why . if he does not test it then he is non compliant ,with who ,building control .so me and the customer had a chat about it .

 

[buzzlightyear]

at one time the manufactures use to put in 2 term screws per tails for isolator switches E.G showers in which where better ,how things have changed .

 

[telectrix]

i had to replace a crabtree the other week. it had gone O/C. then again, i had fitted it in 2004 and the client had been using it as an on/off switch for 15 years, so can't crumble.

 

[pirate]

All down to price, Buzz...
Imagine if you quoted for a job and chose good gear at say £10 more?
No chance!
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10K for a new kitchen?
No problem.
2k for a rewire to keep everything safe for years?
No chance!

 

[telectrix]

i always use decent gear. if the punter no like he can get silly spark from the pub, then call me when it goes ---- up.

 

[buzzlightyear]

All down to price, Buzz...
Imagine if you quoted for a job and chose good gear at say £10 more?
No chance!

the one I have to replace tomorrow is a click module one the same has before .

 

[telectrix]

the click is similar to the crabby.

 

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[telectrix]

had crabbies once, but the pox clinic fixed it.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

There are 2 versions click do, the ones similar to crabtree and the square faceplate version. The square faceplate version has 2 screws per terminal.

 

[Des 56]

i had to replace a crabtree the other week. it had gone O/C. then again, i had fitted it in 2004 and the client had been using it as an on/off switch for 15 years, so can't crumble.

That's half the battle,Joe public treating a shower switch as they would a light switch,try get them to leave it well alone
I tell them if it was a wall switch hidden by junk in the back of a pantry ,are they going to empty the pantry to operate it, they then get surprised when the ends get fried

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

That's half the battle,Joe public treating a shower switch as they would a light switch,try get them to leave it well alone
I tell them if it was a wall switch hidden by junk in the back of a pantry ,are they going to empty the pantry to operate it, they then get surprised when the ends get fried

But what about all the electricity the little neon uses

 

[Risteard]

There are 2 versions click do, the ones similar to crabtree and the square faceplate version. The square faceplate version has 2 screws per terminal.

The round ones have two screws per terminal (bar the cpc termination).

 

[davesparks]

That's half the battle,Joe public treating a shower switch as they would a light switch,try get them to leave it well alone
I tell them if it was a wall switch hidden by junk in the back of a pantry ,are they going to empty the pantry to operate it, they then get surprised when the ends get fried

It is a switch, it should be capable of being switched on and off regularly, that's the whole point of it being there.
What's the point in installing an ugly pull switch in a bathroom if you can't even use it? They obviously aren't any use for safe isolation as they can't be readily locked off.

 

[freddo]

The MK 3ph cooker switches are fitted to the back box before wiring, a much nicer design! Though you do have to wire the neon indicator in yourself...

 

[DPG]

The MK 3ph cooker switches are fitted to the back box before wiring, a much nicer design! Though you do have to wire the neon indicator in yourself...

13A mains sockets should use the same method. There would be no more risk of loosening connections when pushing the sockets back then.