Tontoe
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I had a call to a new customer who was experiencing what sounded like nuisance tripping on a kitchen ring.
Some background first.
I made sure all loads were disconnected. The RCBO still tripped, so not an appliance.
I disconnected conductors at the RCBO and tested the circuit:
I thought I'd just remove it and replace with an MK model. I'm fairly sure Sentry RCBOs fit these old LN type busbars with the right-angled fingers - seem to remember fitting a couple a few years back.
But I might be wrong?
Anyway... I released the busbar [after isolating the supply of course
] and the DIN rail locking catch on the RCBO. However, the RCBO stayed firmly where it was. I couldn't get it off the DIN rail.
I then had a closer look underneath, and it looks as if the original busbar is cut short, and extended with [perhaps?] a piece cannibalised from another type.
I think I have a complete old-type LN busbar somewhere, but what is worrying me is not being able easily to remove the RCBO.
I don't want to force it, break something and then have to do a board change for free. I wonder whether the person doing the mods possibly found the Niglon RCBOs "almost" fitted, but needed some persuasion and are now somehow jammed on the DIN rail?
[BTW don't get me started on the number of 32A circuits on a 60A Main Fuse -
]
Have I missed something blindingly obvious? I await scorn, brickbats etc...
Some background first.
- It's an MK LN insulated [i.e. plastic] split load board, with only one side RCD protected. A direct predecessor [I think ?] and very similar in appearance to the plastic MK Sentry boards we know and love :-(
- At some stage, the customer has had an extension built, and the existing split-load board seems to have had the original MCBs on the unprotected side replaced with individual NIGLON RCBOs [presumably because they were cheaper at the time than the MK Sentry RCBOs which I think would have fitted]. The other side, with a mix of MK & NIGLON MCBs is protected by the OEM 80A RCCB.
- The 32A RCBO concerned was off, and popped off on trying to reset it. The customer said it would "used to stay on, but nowadays trips more or less constantly"
I made sure all loads were disconnected. The RCBO still tripped, so not an appliance.
I disconnected conductors at the RCBO and tested the circuit:
- Ring conductors all continuous with similar readings [and expected values] for R1 & Rn, and the expected reading for R2.
- Insulation tests [@500V with all loads disconnected] ]showed >999 Megohms on P-N, P-E & N-E.
I thought I'd just remove it and replace with an MK model. I'm fairly sure Sentry RCBOs fit these old LN type busbars with the right-angled fingers - seem to remember fitting a couple a few years back.
But I might be wrong?
Anyway... I released the busbar [after isolating the supply of course
I then had a closer look underneath, and it looks as if the original busbar is cut short, and extended with [perhaps?] a piece cannibalised from another type.
I think I have a complete old-type LN busbar somewhere, but what is worrying me is not being able easily to remove the RCBO.
I don't want to force it, break something and then have to do a board change for free. I wonder whether the person doing the mods possibly found the Niglon RCBOs "almost" fitted, but needed some persuasion and are now somehow jammed on the DIN rail?
[BTW don't get me started on the number of 32A circuits on a 60A Main Fuse -
Have I missed something blindingly obvious? I await scorn, brickbats etc...
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