no power at socket

[johnnymacc]

hi guys anybody come across this before, got a call from a landlord to go look at a socket in a rented property,the socket had been working but suddenly stopped.I automatically assumed loose connection or socket faulty nips out with new socket just in case.Got to house whipped the socket front off and found no power but sockets before and after it in the ring had power and every other one in the house worked ok.Now i did no testing or any other investigative work as i have to ok it with the landlord can only think both legs of the ring have been damaged under floor but the fuse had not blown (rewirable) any one had this before.
Cheers,
John.

 

[telectrix]

without doing continuity tests, your guess is a s good as mine.

 

[AndyL]

Carry out full ring final continuity test first, sounds like broken ring or possibly not even a ring in the first place

 

[ackbarthestar]

I've seen this one before. Socket that apparently worked no longer work. Infact they had never worked because they hadn't been connected.

I would agree with others, that a rfc continuity check would be the place to start, then check the sockets either side of the dead socket

 

[Swicade]

I come across a similar situation before, tested final ring continuity and all was good but still fault at socket of no power. Upon further investigation i found the socket i thought was on the ring was actualy on it's own ring in parallel to the main ring circuit via a jumble of JB's under the floor boards.

 

[MarkieSparkie]

Sorry if this reply is blunt, but what sort of answers did you expect to this thread? You've no test data for analysis, hence you're none the wiser and found diagnosis of the fault(s) is impossible. We might be experienced electricians, but like you we're not clairvoyant!

 

[snowhead]

As said, just because it has 2 cables to it doesn't mean it's part of the ring.
It could be in a radial to an immersion heater or something else no-one has noticed is not working.

I've lost count over 45 years how many times I've heard "It was working yesterday" only to find, no cables to a socket or light, fuses or mcb missing from a board etc.

If it's an long term tennant I'd be more inclined to believe it MAY have been working.

Find out what it has been used for and what was plugged in when it "stopped working"

Has any other work of ANY sort been done in the property recently?

 

[Farmelectrics]

dont attend any job with out your test kit

 

[snowhead]

dont attend any job with out your test kit

Even JUST a socket change.

 

[Top Cat]

To be fair to the guy he didn't say he had no test kit, only that he had to ok a full inspection with landlord.

 

[johnnymacc]

Stroll on i rushed to it between jobs as yes it had been working and sockets either side do work and yes i did want to consult the landlord and yes i will find and sort i just asked if anyone had come across something like this before so i'll stay off the board for a few more months until the super sparks can actually read a question properly. ffs

 

[trev]

Sorry Johnny but I can't see why you're upset mate. There's nothing I've read here that I'd find offensive, if I'd asked this on a site I'd expect to get far worse

 

[sedgy34]

Stroll on i rushed to it between jobs as yes it had been working and sockets either side do work and yes i did want to consult the landlord and yes i will find and sort i just asked if anyone had come across something like this before so i'll stay off the board for a few more months until the super sparks can actually read a question properly. ffs

could be a problem with a jb under floor

 

[johnnymacc]

Sorry guys bit stressed,there is no power to the socket and its in the front room with working sockets either side plus its an old fuse board and all the sockets are on same fuse i will test it and and find the fault regards to all.

 

[trev]

Big breaths mate, have a beer tonight and forget about it till landlord gives the ok for the full test. I'll bet you find the problem in about ten minutes. My money is on post 7