Normally on bell push | on ElectriciansForums

Discuss Normally on bell push in the UK Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

Joined
Oct 1, 2018
Messages
5
Reaction score
1
Location
Essex
Can anyone advise where I could obtain a chrome “ normally on” switch plate. Sorry if I’m not being very clear but the switch needs to be momentarily off when the switch pressed, the opposite to a bell push.
Thanks
 
I have built a hidden door book case for a customer, from inside the room there is a micro switch operated by the movement of a book, however on the other side ( the back) of the book case is a hall and my client wants a light switch looking switch to match all the others in the hall ( which is the item I’m looking for).
As you ask , do you think that if I use a 1 gang 2 way switch with the live one and live 2 terminals bridged it would result in a momentarily break of current when operated. The door is built so that when the electromagnetic lock is released the door swings ajar.....or am I being stupid. Oh and it is all only 12 volt.
 
I have built a hidden door book case for a customer, from inside the room there is a micro switch operated by the movement of a book, however on the other side ( the back) of the book case is a hall and my client wants a light switch looking switch to match all the others in the hall.
That may fool plod, but not his four legged companion! & were you supposed to publish the master plan on the inter web?!
 
As you ask , do you think that if I use a 1 gang 2 way switch with the live one and live 2 terminals bridged it would result in a momentarily break of current when operated. The door is built so that when the electromagnetic lock is released the door swings ajar.....or am I being stupid. Oh and it is all only 12 volt.

Not 100% positive but I would think you would get a very quick change in state (open) when using the switch. If it's long enough to fully de-energise the locking solenoid (if that is what is being used) then that is another thing.
You really need a normally closed momentary light switch. There are lots of 'buttons' our there but as you say "my client wants a light switch looking switch to match all the others in the hall"
I'll have a search.... Sounds interesting...
 
....do you think that if I use a 1 gang 2 way switch with the live one and live 2 terminals bridged it would result in a momentarily break of current when operated. ....
Yes, a 2-way switch is 'break before make' configuration of contacts so there would be a very short break of current if you wire it as you suggested. Problem is that with magnetism things happen relatively slowly and you may find the break in current isn't sufficient for the magnetic flux to decay or break down to a point where the door releases. It would be trial and error.
 
You are unlikely to be able to get a push to break switch that matches exactly, a lot of them have icons or incised writing on them, or if you got a grid module then it would look different. You might find it easier to find a retractive push to make switch, though even that is not so likely in chrome, and then use that to operate an NC relay.
 
I have built a hidden door book case for a customer, from inside the room there is a micro switch operated by the movement of a book, however on the other side ( the back) of the book case is a hall and my client wants a light switch looking switch to match all the others in the hall ( which is the item I’m looking for).
As you ask , do you think that if I use a 1 gang 2 way switch with the live one and live 2 terminals bridged it would result in a momentarily break of current when operated. The door is built so that when the electromagnetic lock is released the door swings ajar.....or am I being stupid. Oh and it is all only 12 volt.

why do people come up with such barmy ideas .......................... no wonder your "normal" sparks couldn't help
 

Reply to Normally on bell push in the UK Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

News and Offers from Sponsors

  • Article
Join us at electronica 2024 in Munich! Since 1964, electronica has been the premier event for technology enthusiasts and industry professionals...
    • Like
Replies
0
Views
293
  • Sticky
  • Article
Good to know thanks, one can never have enough places to source parts from!
Replies
4
Views
801
  • Article
OFFICIAL SPONSORS These Official Forum Sponsors May Provide Discounts to Regular Forum Members - If you would like to sponsor us then...
Replies
0
Views
833

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
306
  • Question
Thanks davesparks. Looking at the diagram on the driver that's what I interpreted too, but I heard somewhere that the DALI system doesn't like...
Replies
2
Views
546

OFFICIAL SPONSORS

Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Electrician Courses Green Electrical Goods PCB Way Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Pushfit Wire Connectors Electric Underfloor Heating Electrician Courses
These Official Forum Sponsors May Provide Discounts to Regular Forum Members - If you would like to sponsor us then CLICK HERE and post a thread with who you are, and we'll send you some stats etc

YOUR Unread Posts

This website was designed, optimised and is hosted by untold.media Operating under the name Untold Media since 2001.
Back
Top