Not good DECC figures

[ktech]

Re the below:

http://www.decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/statistics/energy_stats/source/fits/fits.aspx

We are offering 4kW Yingli @ £6199 but very quiet. This is with a 15% return. What's happening?

 

[LightGEN]

Everyone is racing to the bottom on price I see!

 

[finchy]

Really can not quantify what is happening ...or is not happening. Last year when is was almost double the price there wasn't enough hours in the day, this year it's half the price with same if not better return it's not selling.

I recon put the prices back up to 12k for 16 panels...people obviously think its too cheap!

It would be nice to know % of Free solar of that weekly figure, I know someone on a previous thread said 70%. Which I can believe !

 

[finchy]

It appears so lightgen, foolish !! We're not selling spuds at Tesco's, can't see anyone having much of a sustainable business with the price quoted. Customers buy from us because we have been trading for over 10 years and plan to continue too!

Its a business not a pop-up shop ...

 

[Eco Deal]

what model of yingli & what inverter ?

Re the below:

http://www.decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/statistics/energy_stats/source/fits/fits.aspx

We are offering 4kW Yingli @ £6199 but very quiet. This is with a 15% return. What's happening?

 

[ktech]

Hi fincy.I understand what you say we where selling 4kW at 13.5k last year but the market seems to have changed. Customers where demanding German panels etc. last year but now it seems to be all about price. Poly panels don't seem to be a problem - different customer different market?

 

[ktech]

ih MEP Yingli 250W mono £*** ppw with power one inverter.

 

[ktech]

I did speak to a distributor the other day and he sugested that a number of installers (down south) where quite happy to complete the job and get £500 profit ! I guess they won't be around for the warranty?

 

[ktech]

fincy, we are not a 'pop up shop' either just trying to keep workers employed and compete with the market. Tesco (i understand) are offering a 4kW system for 6500 ish, get real.

 

[finchy]

It's not the customers demanding price it's US, under pricing each other 4000+ installers chasing 70% of the 1000 installed last week (not free Solar).

Their is a minimum safe installation cost, jo public parting with anything over £1000 wants services/quality.

 

[ktech]

Fincy, I guess the market at the monent will prove you (and us) wrong or not?

 

[finchy]

Ktech we're on the same side ! Business is tough country wide...I just don't want to see what's left of the promising industry implode !!

 

[ktech]

I know what you mean. it's pritty crap out there at the moment. And from this weeks numbers not getting better. Somthing still tells me that if you stick with it them not so soon it may turn around?

 

[ktech]

It's intersting that you can offer a 15% return and even in this climate don't get takers! I had the usual City Link driver around today and he said it was very quiet (even after a bank holiday). People are not spending at the moment it would seem.

 

[finchy]

Sadly in order to survive generally in business you need to diversify.

However the good news is ... Gregs off promoting green businesses in Texas, not sure about the commute ......a bit out of touch comes to mind (AGAIN)!