Number of points on circuit (EICR)

[jibjob]

Hi Guys,

Just started using test sheets that ask for number of points on circuit (recently started using PIRform). Let's say I was inspecting a shower, would I enter 2 points on circuit, isolator & appliance? Would you do the same for lighting ie where you might have a 2 way circuit & 10 D/L's so in total for that section of the circuit you would be (assuming 2 switches present) 12 points? I'm guessing that this would be right but was a little unsure.

Cheers

 

[buttonmoon]

I've always gone with 1 point per light fitting, 1 point per single or double socket and 1 point for a dedicated circuit regardless if there is an isolator.

 

[dagrat]

As above. One lighting point is fitting and switch combined. Shower with switch is still one point.
Additionally a light with multiple lamps is still one point.
hope this helps

 

[HandySparks]

Yes, as above. I think of it as the number of physically separate loads (or load connection points if load not present).

So, 12 lamp chandelier, 1 point; 12 downlights, 12 points; cooker control unit without socket, 1 point; with socket, 2 points.

 

[Engineer54]

cooker control unit without socket, 1 point; with socket, 2 points.

Not in my book it isn't, ....it's a single point, with or without a socket!!

 

[dagrat]

Agree with Engineer54, single point with or without socket.

 

[somersetsparks]

Agree with you handysparks except from the cooker point, If it forms part of the same, usually cheap plastic accessory it is 1 point!

 

[HandySparks]

Not in my book it isn't, ....it's a single point, with or without a socket!!

Hmmm. I'll have to have a think about this then! Without definitive guidance, I guess everyone's going to have their own ideas.

Personally, I don't get too bothered about getting the number exactly right. After all, I'm not sure quite what the purpose really is, other than to show that you at least bothered to hunt out the various accessories on the circuit; even if it doesn't prove that you tested or inspected all of them. And, of course, the value is somewhat lost if whoever refers to the form after you has different ideas about what to count as a point.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

I never bothered filling it in unless it was a rewire, and then only so i could tell if DIY Charlie had added his additions, and thus invalidating any warranty that i gave. Its not a requirement anyway. But in my humble opinion, 1 outlet (twin or otherwise) 1 point. light and switche(s) 1 point. etc etc.

Cheers.........Howard

 

[Guest55]

as Sirkit says , utterly pointless exercise in a domestic.
not even mentioned in bs7671 so a non-event really.

 

[Badged01]

I agree that number of points is generally meaningless but I always do it for the reason mentioned by SirKit. It gives a record of how many point were there when I did the work/inspection so if handyman Joe does some work later I know about it should I have to do further work at a later date. (Other than noticing the roughness of his work compared to mine of course!!)