paint ceiling 1st or drill holes ?

[Andy78]

That depends on who is in the videos, might be better with low lighting ?

That reminds me of a DVD that got passed round a site I was on featuring a local fella who produced, and starred in, his own adult entertainment when he wasn't driving a truck for Travis Perkins. Was a bit weird when he turned up one day to drop off some ton bags and asked us what we all thought of his performances. ?

 

[Intoelectrics]

That reminds me of a DVD that got passed round a site I was on featuring a local fella who produced, and starred in, his own adult entertainment when he wasn't driving a truck for Travis Perkins. Was a bit weird when he turned up one day to drop off some ton bags and asked us what we all thought of his performances. ?

I'm sure he had many a comment, i can think of a few but will leave it since this is a family friendly site.

 

[Andy78]

I'm sure he had many a comment, i can think of a few but will leave it since this is a family friendly site.

It made me think of it when you mentioned the low lighting. Some of his lady friends would have looked better in pitch black. Still makes me shudder to think of one of them ....

 

[Deleted member 112675]

Right, first of all I need to apologise to you all for not quite be honest. I don't know why I said it was "a bedroom".
I mean it is a bedroom but there is also a kitchen within - openplan a granny annexe or studio kind of thing. Its big at 27sqm (5.2 x 5.2). There is definitely no bathroom - that's in another room.

Having misled slightly, I really can't expect any decent replies but just in case:
I thought I'd need 12 based on about a metre from the wall and about a metre between lights. Also I thought I read 150 lux for a bedroom and 300 for a kitchen so figured I'd need somewhere inbetween and 12 seemed to be the number giving that. In an ideal world that would mean more lights in the kitchen side but that would mean leds ceiling looking uneven with them mostly bunched to the kitchen. I did get adjustable ones which might help though.

You have definitely got me thinking though if I've got too many. Of course a lot of the "guides" out there are written by sites.....that....you guess it want to sell you as many downlights as possible.

 

[telectrix]

Right, first of all I need to apologise to you all for not quite be honest. I don't know why I said it was "a bedroom".
I mean it is a bedroom but there is also a kitchen within - openplan a granny annexe or studio kind of thing. Its big at 27sqm (5.2 x 5.2). There is definitely no bathroom - that's in another room.

Having misled slightly, I really can't expect any decent replies but just in case:
I thought I'd need 12 based on about a metre from the wall and about a metre between lights. Also I thought I read 150 lux for a bedroom and 300 for a kitchen so figured I'd need somewhere inbetween and 12 seemed to be the number giving that. In an ideal world that would mean more lights in the kitchen side but that would mean leds ceiling looking uneven with them mostly bunched to the kitchen. I did get adjustable ones which might help though.

You have definitely got me thinking though if I've got too many. Of course a lot of the "guides" out there are written by sites.....that....you guess it want to sell you as many downlights as possible.

you may have got it right then according to the room size. perhaps have on 2 separate switches though and make the bed area ones dimmable.

 

[Zerax]

Why not make them all dimmable ? That way you can afford to go a bit brighter as they can be reduced. Zoning also makes perfect sense...

 

[Midwest]

Some of the major manufacturers, offer a design service for lighting, Collingwood being one;

https://www.collingwoodlighting.com/tools/howmanylights/

There’s arguments for and against painting before or after, don’t think either way is preferable. Using the argument to paint after because you might foul on a joist etc, doesn’t bode well for the expertises of the installer IMO.

 

[Deleted member 112675]

Well, despite my inaccurate description initially I still have had a few really useful replies - thanks a lot !

So in summary it seems there are pros/cons of painting first or last and therefore no definite way it should be done.

I'd already designed the lights to be two-way (using Quinetic as advised by the forum in another thread) so have two controllers. Unfortunately they are not dimmable so I think what I'll do is set it up with the non dimmable and then if it looks like it really could benefit from dimmable I just need to swap out the bedroom side controller.

I might be back in a few weeks with an "almost" brand new Quinetic non-dimmable controller at half price if someone wants it. (!)

 

[Zerax]

Well, despite my inaccurate description initially I still have had a few really useful replies - thanks a lot !

So in summary it seems there are pros/cons of painting first or last and therefore no definite way it should be done.

I'd already designed the lights to be two-way (using Quinetic as advised by the forum in another thread) so have two controllers. Unfortunately they are not dimmable so I think what I'll do is set it up with the non dimmable and then if it looks like it really could benefit from dimmable I just need to swap out the bedroom side controller.

I might be back in a few weeks with an "almost" brand new Quinetic non-dimmable controller at half price if someone wants it. (!)

I used a quinetic dimmable last week... works a treat !