Paperwork for CU change and a few additions

[mattcos1972]

Afternoon all.

For a CU change and, at the same time, the installation of 3 new final circuits I have done the following paperwork:

PIR - prior to cu change

EIC - To include new CU and New Circuits (existing circuits fully tested too, as I had to repair most of them following the findings on the first PIR )

PIR - following CU change (using test results from EIC)

Does that sound about right or have I missed anything out?

Cheers

Matt

 

[acat]

Why he second PIR I would have thought the PIR and EIC would suffice As mentioned in a post I put up I refused a job because it needed a PIR and everyone said issue EIC as remedial work and cross reference to PIR no one mentioned a second PIR.

Would love to see other peoples opinion on this one.


Chris

 

[mattcos1972]

Why he second PIR I would have thought the PIR and EIC would suffice As mentioned in a post I put up I refused a job because it needed a PIR and everyone said issue EIC as remedial work and cross reference to PIR no one mentioned a second PIR.

Would love to see other peoples opinion on this one.


Chris

I was told by my tutor at college that a 2nd PIR would be required...however I would love to hear that that is not so.....as I haven't compiled the 2nd one yet although I have finally figured out how to use my Amtech software so it should take all of 2 seconds to put together once I do decide as I have done the physical inspection and testing.
I must admit he is the only person who has said a 2nd PIR was required, post cu change, but then again up until you responded Chris, he was the only person I'd asked!!

Matt

 

[pennywise]

I wouldn't do another PIR, as Acat mentioned make a cross reference on the EIC of what the cert covers and quote the first PIR ref number and say all remedial works mention on the original inspection have been rectified, and that the cert covers a full inspection of existing circuits.

 

[Guest123]

A PIR before the CU change and any other work is fine.

An EIC on completion of the CU change and any other work is all that's needed, no further PIR is needed, your tutor is obviously misunderstood.

 

[WayneL]

A PIR before the CU change and any other work is fine.

An EIC on completion of the CU change and any other work is all that's needed, no further PIR is needed, your tutor is obviously misunderstood.

I agree with Lenny. If you do a full PIR before the change, then it's not necessary to repeat afterwards - but you must remember that Zs readings etc need to be verified in accordance with your new CU and not the existing.

The only thing I would add is that if you only do minimal tests before the change, do the remaining necessary tests afterwards, then complete the paperwork.

The initial testing is only to confirm that you are able to change the CU safely and without problems - the ESC recommend a PIR after the change, but obviously you don't have to repeat testing that you've already done

 

[acat]

Me thinks your tutor has his head in the clouds looking at it from a practical point of view

PIR No problem its needed
EIC No problem its needed cross refer with PIR

Following your tutors logic as you are competent to do a PIR but not competent to fill out an EIC after a PIR you need to do another PIR to ensure the EIC was correct.

OK OK I admit it Im Irish but even I cant follow the logic for this one


Chris

 

[mattcos1972]

Cheers all.

That is good news indeed. All the tests (dead and energised - Zs included) have been performed before and after the change of CU so all readings on the EIC are relevant to the new set up.
I'll do as you suggest and cross reference the EIC to the PIR and point out that all remedial work had been undertaken (I had 10 each of Code 1 and Code 2 faults noted on the PIR not to mention a list as long as your arm of code 4s!! lol)

Thanks again to all!

Matt