Part L Energy efficient lighting ?

[BillyH]

How do we stand with compliance with Part L regarding downlighters .Can we fit as many gu10/12v downlights as the customer requires or do we have to insist on a more efficient scheme.The building in question is a barn conversion.Would this be classed as a new build

 

[Guest123]

It's classed as a 'new dwelling' so yes, part L1(A) does apply in this instance. As do all other documents.

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/AD_L1A_wm.pdf

 

[MTI]

without hijacking (i promise!) i have one to do next week. Existing domestic with small new build extension. Full rewire so can i use non energy efficient throughout house and 75% in newbuild extension bit?
customers hate these energy fittings - especially when you say no i cant just stick energy lamps in standard pendants because when im gone, you will take them all out and i have no proof i ever atempted to comply!

 

[JUD]

without hijacking (i promise!) i have one to do next week. Existing domestic with small new build extension. Full rewire so can i use non energy efficient throughout house and 75% in newbuild extension bit?
customers hate these energy fittings - especially when you say no i cant just stick energy lamps in standard pendants because when im gone, you will take them all out and i have no proof i ever atempted to comply!

Standard fittings with low energy lamps are now compliant.

Have a look at the supplementary information for Fixed Internal Lighting on page 123 of the Domestic Building Compliance Guide

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/domestic_building_compliance_guide_2010.pdf

 

[brucelee]

Standard fittings with low energy lamps are now compliant.

Have a look at the supplementary information for Fixed Internal Lighting on page 123 of the Domestic Building Compliance Guide

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/domestic_building_compliance_guide_2010.pdf

Hi mate

you are correct as when i had my assessment with elecsa this was a question i asked as it used to be 25% or 1 in 4 had to be energy efficient that couldnt be changed for a non energy efficient
were now its 75% but the lampholders including pendent type can be used as they accept both except GLStungsten filament or halogen so basically this is another ill thought out building requirment in the first place

 

[D80]

Hi mate

you are correct as when i had my assessment with elecsa this was a question i asked as it used to be 25% or 1 in 4 had to be energy efficient that couldnt be changed for a non energy efficient
were now its 75% but the lampholders including pendent type can be used as they accept both except GLStungsten filament or halogen so basically this is another ill thought out building requirment in the first place

Anyone know if its the same in Northern Ireland?

 

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[Bright Sparks]

Hi mate

you are correct as when i had my assessment with elecsa this was a question i asked as it used to be 25% or 1 in 4 had to be energy efficient that couldnt be changed for a non energy efficient
were now its 75% but the lampholders including pendent type can be used as they accept both except GLStungsten filament or halogen so basically this is another ill thought out building requirment in the first place

Except that tungsten has pretty much been banned and Halogen will go that way by 2016. If you put in special 'lamp holders' a company patents the idea then has a captive market for its lamps. Google 'European halogen ban 2016'

 

[Fin170]

Except that tungsten has pretty much been banned and Halogen will go that way by 2016. If you put in special 'lamp holders' a company patents the idea then has a captive market for its lamps. Google 'European halogen ban 2016'

If i remember right that's only effecting MR16 12v downlights, in which case good riddance to an unreliable, expensive, fire risk

 

[Bright Sparks]

If i remember right that's only effecting MR16 12v downlights, in which case good riddance to an unreliable, expensive, fire risk

If the draft I read comes into effect it will not be lamp type specific but efficiency specific, which means it will effect Halogen (Both MR16 & GU10), and also some of the CFL and even the poor performing LEDs.

I think the Halogen goes in stages the 1000 hour lamps first the year after the 3000s then in 2016 the 5000 hour lamps. I heard that the IRC halogens could be used to replace but be aware I also read from some blog that these get up to high temperature (400 Deg C) and will cause all sorts of bother with downlights because the paint isn't able to handle the heat.

You were warned!!!!