Part P and garden sheds

[Busy Bee]

Morning all

Just a quick question - I have just qualified and a friend wants me to do some work in her workshop / garage for her. She has armoured cable already in place for her pond pump (under her patio) and wants me to connect it to a extension CCU already in the garage. She also wants the lights in her workshop moved and a few more added (again coming from the CCU in the garage next to it). I am getting confused with what would be notifiable work in all of this - can anyone advise please?

Thank you!

 

[ebow72]

Is it a dwelling or commercial property? If anyone lives there, or above then it's notifiable, under what Part P deem notifiable.

 

[Octopus]

If in doubt notify.

 

[Des 56]

If this question is given to 500 forum members, you will likely get an even split on whether its notifiable or not,most.myself included. would have to study the lists to get the answer

Now put yourselves in the position of an householder, who, even by some miraculous vision,were aware of Part P,they then have to be better informed than me about this notification in order to get the procedure right

I now tend to tell people that they may be better off remaining unaware and just get on with it

 

[Busy Bee]

Hi ebow72
Its a garage and workshop next door to her house so it would be a dwelling. I had thought it would be notifiable but then if I am just moving lights... thanks for your help

 

[ebow72]

Not that I am with Elecsa, but I have found this to be a pretty decent guide.
http://www.elecsa.co.uk/Documents/Public-Documents/Contractors/Guide-to-Part-P_2012.aspx
I did have a PDF somewhere but can't find it..
Depending in which room you are moving lights in would depend whether it's notifiable or not.
But given you are installing a CCU and new circuits and new lights in the workshop, I would just go down the notifiable route full stop and issue correct certs.

It's so easy just to do it and not notify etc, I know lads who do it, even through college I was asked to do certain jobs but never did them, not now, but maybe in a few years they will come back to haunt you.
I am not suggesting you are doing this either....

 

[Busy Bee]

thanks for your advice, appreciated

 

[telectrix]

for the supply to the shed, i would be inclined to come from the house supply direct, not join into an existing supply to the pond. either from a non-RCD MCB in the CU, or split tails into henleys. SWA to shed CU and then shed wired up as required.

 

[Busy Bee]

Thanks teletrix
The shed has a ccu in it already with a spare RCD all ready to go - they just want me to connect the swa into it - she doesn't trust her husband to do the job properly! The lights are on another circuit already wired - they just want me to move the exisiting strip lights and add another two onto the circuit. so it is just additional work to an existing installation which is why I am wondering if it is notifiable or not....
BB

 

[telectrix]

IMO, the work in the garage is not notifiable, but connecting SWA outside is. in the circumstances, you have 2 choices 1. notify ( if you're not in a competent persons club, expensive ). 2, just get on with it.

 

[shocking_eg]

all of this nattering and you could have done the bloody job by now ! lol

 

[AndyL]

Morning all

Just a quick question - I have just qualified and a friend wants me to do some work in her workshop / garage for her. She has armoured cable already in place for her pond pump (under her patio) and wants me to connect it to a extension CCU already in the garage. She also wants the lights in her workshop moved and a few more added (again coming from the CCU in the garage next to it). I am getting confused with what would be notifiable work in all of this - can anyone advise please?

Thank you!

Connecting the SWA to the CCU is a new circuit so notifiable
Adding lights in the garage to an existing circuit is not notifiable but if you are adding new circuit from CCU for these lights then again it is notifiable

 

[Deleted member 9648]

If you are not a scam member it's likely to cost more to notify the job than to do it. As long as you do it right,and in compliance with Bs7671, you wont be persued by BC or anyone else for not notifying...prosecutions only happen when dangerous work has been installed......if it was me I'd go with option 2 in post 10!

 

[Guitarist]

Morning all

Just a quick question - I have just qualified and a friend wants me to do some work in her workshop / garage for her. She has armoured cable already in place for her pond pump (under her patio) and wants me to connect it to a extension CCU already in the garage. She also wants the lights in her workshop moved and a few more added (again coming from the CCU in the garage next to it). I am getting confused with what would be notifiable work in all of this - can anyone advise please?

Thank you!

Do you have test gear ?

 

[Dannyspark]

Agree with the comments above.
The SWA to pond is notifiable because (a). It is a new circuit and (b). It is in a special location.
If you are only adding/extending light points in garage it is not notifiable, but if you are changing the circuit characteristics, i.e. Changing MCB rating or putting the light circuit on to an RCD protected way, (which you WILL have to do if you are extending the circuit) then yes it will be a notifiable job.

Hope this helps?

Dan