Part P Approved Inspectors

Capn Ahab · Dec 1, 2010

Going through Part P the other night and came across a bit saying that three types of people who can sign work off: 1. Members of Competent Persons schemes; 2. LABC; and 3. Approved Inspectors.

Can anyone shed light on what exactly these are? And are they the same thing as BS2391 qualified sparkys?

Many thanks,

Ahab

SirKit Breaker · Dec 1, 2010

i think you may be referring to the terms used on an EIC. Signatures required, Test and Inspection, design, Construction, and installation.

The person doing the work has to sign the certs for the part they have completed, unless like me doing a rewire etc, i use the single signature certs, so i sign for the lot.

solo2771 · Dec 1, 2010

As far as i am aware being part P aproved only means you can test work done by your own company.

Sparky Ninja · Dec 1, 2010

I have done some inspecting and notifying for wembley's local authorities before. It wasn't my installation and I wasn't the LABC.

solo2771 · Dec 1, 2010

widdler said:
I have done some inspecting and notifying for wembley's local authorities before. It wasn't my installation and I wasn't the LABC.

Sounds like you were workin FOR therefore under the council

Sparky Ninja · Dec 1, 2010

Well my invoice went to them, so possibly. Although all documentation is registered and supplied by myself.

Capn Ahab · Dec 1, 2010

Ok, so moving on, once I get my 2391 (hopefully January), will I still need to join a competent persons scheme to sign work off?

I'm guessing no, cos Part P says you must inform LABC one way or another, either by doing it yourself or getting your scheme to do it. Right?

pushrod · Dec 1, 2010

Capn Ahab said:
Ok, so moving on, once I get my 2391 (hopefully January), will I still need to join a competent persons scheme to sign work off?

I'm guessing no, cos Part P says you must inform LABC one way or another, either by doing it yourself or getting your scheme to do it. Right?

If you are talking notifiable work, unfortunately you might need to guess again. I'm not in a part P scheme and presently in the middle of a row with my LABC as they want to charge me about 90% of the charge they would apply to a completely unqualified person. The result is i could employ a member of a part P scheme (who would more than likely be less qualified than me) to do the job for less than the fee they want to charge me!!!.

They said if you don't like our charges use an approved inspector ! I am yet to find out what exactly one is myself but i bet they don't come cheap. It is looking increasingly like i will have to join a part p scam to do a few notifiable jobs in my own property and consequently also take out public liability insurance, which i don't want or need, and also have to set myself up as a sole trader (?) Think it depends a lot on the head of your local building control - some are reasonable people and some are not

Des 56 · Dec 2, 2010

There is a scheme whereby the Labc use approved inspectors to do the inspection for them
This has come about, due to changes in part p, whereby the Labc can now vary charges for notifyable jobs, dependant on whether the installer is an electrician with qualifications or a diyer with nothing
The scheme requires the approved inspector to be 2391 qualified and the qualification must be current within the last 5 years
The vast majority of registered insoectors are Napit registered,because they have the most numerous membership who hold the qualification,the Niceic have few approved inspectors because of m their lower registration requirements
The scheme kicked off last year but has not taken off,the Labc continue to use, sometimes unqualified niceic firms, because of the history of their ignorance

pushrod · Dec 2, 2010

Des 56 said:
There is a scheme whereby the Labc use approved inspectors to do the inspection for them
This has come about, due to changes in part p, whereby the Labc can now vary charges for notifyable jobs, dependant on whether the installer is an electrician with qualifications or a diyer with nothing
The scheme requires the approved inspector to be 2391 qualified and the qualification must be current within the last 5 years
The vast majority of registered insoectors are Napit registered,because they have the most numerous membership who hold the qualification,the Niceic have few approved inspectors because of m their lower registration requirements
The scheme kicked off last year but has not taken off,the Labc continue to use, sometimes unqualified niceic firms, because of the history of their ignorance

My problem is that having had to prove my qualifications to them they are prepared to give me something like a £25 discount of a £200 charge to say move a socket in a kitchen - big deal, what a farce

Maybe i should get a job as an approved inspector so they can then pay me for inspecting my own work