Part P - do I need??

[Mateusz1987]

Hello lads
have question do I need to be part p registered if I would by NicEic domestic installer or proved contractor?
Thanx

 

[simpson93]

hi there, part p is a building regulation. the niceic is a governing body
to sighn off work in domestic premices it needs to be done with labc(local authority building control) or a governing body such as the niceic who give it to labc.

as you dont know alot about this i would urge you to read up about part p before joining any scheems.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

As already stated there is no such thing as 'part p registered', part p is just a document which has to be complied with on some aspects of domestic installation work. Also dont be fooled by expensive 'part p courses'....they are a con and a meaningless qualification.
Have a read of the actual document for free and you will be a leading authority on part p in less than half an hour.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf

 

[ban-all-sheds]

part p is just a document which has to be complied with on some aspects of domestic installation work.

No - Part P is a part of the Building Regulations, and it has to be complied with on ALL work on fixed electrical cables or fixed electrical equipment located on the consumer’s side of the electricity supply meter which operate at low or extra-low voltage and are—
(a) in or attached to a dwelling;
(b) in the common parts of a building serving one or more dwellings, but excluding power supplies to lifts;
(c) in a building that receives its electricity from a source located within or shared with a dwelling; or
(d) in a garden or in or on land associated with a building where the electricity is from a source located within or shared with a dwelling.

Have a read of the actual document for free and you will be a leading authority on part p in less than half an hour.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf

Apparently not... :smilewinkgrin:

 

[ruston]

Well you do'nt have to be part p registered, but it will work out cheaper if you are. LABC fees per inspect are in the region of £400 in my area for an electrical notification only. If your work is on a property that already has planning permission you may be lucky and BC will accept you qualifications and issue a completion certificate based on your test results. I believe this varies from area to area , depending on the building inspectors attitude.

 

[simpson93]

you dont have to be part p registered to work in houses, you just have to comply with part p.
there are several things you can do without having to register, so if all you do is the odd small job like adding a socket or light shouldnt be a problem.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

No - Part P is a part of the Building Regulations, and it has to be complied with on ALL work on fixed electrical cables or fixed electrical equipment located on the consumer’s side of the electricity supply meter which operate at low or extra-low voltage and are—
(a) in or attached to a dwelling;
(b) in the common parts of a building serving one or more dwellings, but excluding power supplies to lifts;
(c) in a building that receives its electricity from a source located within or shared with a dwelling; or
(d) in a garden or in or on land associated with a building where the electricity is from a source located within or shared with a dwelling.

Apparently not... :smilewinkgrin:

Absolute crap.
There are many electrical installation jobs in a dwelling which do not require notification or come under part P....see table 1.

 

[Mateusz1987]

OK so that's mean even if I'm NicEic domestic installer and will have coming rewiring in 4bed house, I have to contact building controler and pay him around 400 pounds to come and check before starting work and after job done and check my test results? I'm not sure that I get it right reading other threads, Part P registered person will pay 2-4pounds ??
What if I would be Approved contractor(NicEic) would be the same scenario
Part P = Competent Person Shame ??
Sorry for so many question but I'm getting so confused with all those money sucking authorities.

 

[not clever]

With respect WP ban-all-sheds hasnt mentioned notification, he has correctly stated that all electrical work in the domestic enviroment must comply with part P of the building regs, as you also say some of the work does not need notifying but what ever the work it must be designed & installed so as to comply with part P & 7671

 

[Deleted member 9648]

If you are a NIC domestic/approved installer you notify LABC through the NIC on completion of the job for a small fee....the same applies with the other scams,napit,elecsa..etc
There is no such thing as a part p registered person.

 

[not clever]

If you are

1. registered with niceic (or any other scheme provider) as a domestic installer, you do the re-wire test & cert, then go on line to the brcs website & register the work (registering the work costs you £3 per job).
2. registered with niceic as an approved contractor, you do the re-wire test & cert, then go on line to the brcs website & register the work (registering the work costs you £3 per job).
3. not registered with anybody, call building control stating what electrical work you are going to be doing, pay the fee £200+ or more. Do the first fix call BC they inspect & hopefully give thumbs up. You do 2nd fix & call BC they do final test inspect & issue cert or tell you to rectify any non compliances.

 

[Mateusz1987]

Well done Not clever (strange nick ) you just clear the way in my head, after reading 12 pages "domestic-part p" thread, this is best answer to all question regarding all "scums" I own u a pint.

Just wondering
I have customer for rewiring 4 bed house + I would replace CU in my house, this give my 2 sites for Nic - hopefully will pass, then go on line to the brcs website & register both the works and will cost me only 6 quid:bulb2:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

As already stated there is no such thing as 'part p registered', part p is just a document which has to be complied with on some aspects of domestic installation work. Also dont be fooled by expensive 'part p courses'....they are a con and a meaningless qualification.
Have a read of the actual document for free and you will be a leading authority on part p in less than half an hour.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf

Quite right too wire: Part p courses are indeed a con and i will endevour to warn anyone considering one of these to think about it first.........

 

[Dunc]

Well done Not clever (strange nick ) you just clear the way in my head, after reading 12 pages "domestic-part p" thread, this is best answer to all question regarding all "scums" I own u a pint.

Just wondering
I have customer for rewiring 4 bed house + I would replace CU in my house, this give my 2 sites for Nic - hopefully will pass, then go on line to the brcs website & register both the works and will cost me only 6 quid:bulb2:

Reading your first post you make it sound like you are already registered with the NIC as a Domestic Installer however reading this it sounds like you have not had your assessment yet and are therefore not registered with a competent persons scheme. Is this correct? If i am correct then i don't think you can do what you are proposing with the NIC. The jobs have to be complete and notified with the LABC prior to your assessment. Things may have changed but when Part P first came in to force this was the case however i stand to be corrected if things have changed in recent years.

I'm assuming by the way you write that you are from somewhere else in Europe (non UK citizen) but obviously working in the UK so i think some people are getting a bit confused about what you are planning to do because of the nature of your English. Not a criticism but i know people don't always read the posts properly before commenting which can inadvertently cause incorrect information to be given.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Dont know about nic dunc but rang elecsa recently who told me not to notify a proposed dis board change at my mothers: dont bother with buildings control they said, just do it just before your assessment and when/if we accept you onto the scheme then just notify the work done through us.....save me about £180 that will....dont know about nic though so ring em before parting with cash to the council (robbing gets).........