Part P info?

ch1 · Oct 6, 2009

Hi folks,

Just started my Part P with OLCI and I'm wondering if I will be able to sign off work on my own house? Just bought a bungalow that according to the home report will need some upgrading to the electrics. As money is tight and there's a lot of other work needing done I'm hoping to do this myself. I've been told by a mate this won't be possible but need to know the cheapest way of getting the house habitable (+ safe!)

Cheers!

Chris

ian.settle1 · Oct 6, 2009

ch1 said:
Hi folks,

Just started my Part P with OLCI and I'm wondering if I will be able to sign off work on my own house? Just bought a bungalow that according to the home report will need some upgrading to the electrics. As money is tight and there's a lot of other work needing done I'm hoping to do this myself. I've been told by a mate this won't be possible but need to know the cheapest way of getting the house habitable (+ safe!) Cheers!

Chris

What are you doing?

Part P is a BUILDING REGULATION not a qualification.

Yooj · Oct 7, 2009

Contact your Building Control department, get a copy of their rates for BC notification...estimate the notifiable work will be within the lowest bracket

...do the work over a period of time, and test it properly. Produce EIC/MWC for work (dependent upon type of work), send it to BC with copy of your qualifications in electrics.

Est...£200 to £300

Yooj

ch1 · Oct 7, 2009

Sorry for the delay- computer problems.
According to the paperwork the course (Certificate for Domestic Electrical Installers) consists of nine units and five days of workshops followed by written exams, an online exam and hands on assessments. Unit one relates to the Part P Regulations. I'm doing this as an extra to an OLCI C+G 6129 plumbing course I'm doing. I'm not expecting to do all the electrical work in the new house but hoping to do some to keep costs down. Just wondering what the law says and what being Part P certified means? A pal told me you can't sign off work on your own home. Is this true? Thanks in advance for any info.

Chris

Yooj · Oct 8, 2009

ch1 said:
...Just wondering what the law says and what being Part P certified means? A pal told me you can't sign off work on your own home. Is this true? Thanks in advance for any info.

Chris

Part P certified just means that within the eyes of the law you are competent and able to certify electrical installations that you have done within a domestic environment that are notifiable, i.e. any new circuits, modifications/extensions to circuits within garden/kitchen/bathroom, CCU change etc.

The only way (not strictly true, but additional info will only confuse the situation) to be deemed competent is to register, and be assessed by an operator of a Competent Person Scheme...NICEIC, NAPIT, ELECSA, BSI.

If you are registered, then you can do work and sign off work in your own home.

The only thing that Part P training courses do is get you prepared for your assessment by whichever Competent Person Scheme you go with.

Finally, you can actually use the work that you do in your own home as the jobs that are assessed by the Competent Scheme providers, and as long as you have a major job and a minor job (for Domestic Installer assessment), major being something like a new Ring Final or CCU change and a minor being something like a circuit alteration/extension then this could be used for assessment.

Yooj

ch1 · Oct 8, 2009

Thanks for the info Yooj. This sounds good as I'm hoping I'll be able to do the same with my plumbing NVQ2 assessments. From what I've heard one of the main problems with being recently qualified in any trade is getting your first jobs (including those required for assessment.) If I can use jobs on my own home for my Part P and plumbing NVQ2 assessments not only will I save myself a lot of money but will get viable experience (all without putting someone else's house at risk!) Thanks again.

Chris

PS What are EIC, MWCs? Googled but can't find any relevent info.

Mark.W · Oct 8, 2009

EIC = Electrical Installation Certificate
MWC = Minor Works Certificate

Yooj · Oct 8, 2009

Chris,

Here is the NICEIC DI Scheme Link: Domestic Installer Scheme (Part P) - NICEIC Schemes - Approved contractor scheme - NICEIC Group

Here is the NAPIT Scheme Link: NAPIT - electrical

Here is Elecsa: ELECSA - Assessment Help

Here is BSi: Electrical Installers - Kitemark Scheme

I think that they are generally all the same as the requirements are more or less stipulated by the Government. The only exception I beleive is NAPIT whom require C&G 2391 for membership, though this can be achieved within the first 12 months of registration.

In terms of EIC/MWC etc...take a look at this link: Forms for electrical contractors - The IET On the right-hand side of the page you will see 'downloads'. The top one is the standardized forms for all electrical jobs produced by the IET(IEE). They are in PDF format, so you will have to download, print and write on them, but they give you a good understanding. The Word versions should be out soon I hope, then you could fill them in electronically.

Yooj