Part P

[jstephens251]

Hi all,

I imagine this topic has been discussed many times! I'm currently half way through my 2330 level 3 and hoping to go onto my 17th then 2391. I was wondering what peoples thoughts are on what you need to be self employed. Especially regarding Part P!

Do you need to be self employed to be Part P? say if I stayed in my current job, could I register as Part P and do small jobs?

Does joining Nic, Napit etc mean you don't need Part P and can sign off your own work?

I'm quite confused as to what you actually need to be able to do work properly, it seems most of the guys on my course seem to have different opinions.

I wanted to stay clear of these 5 days courses that people think makes you qualified, that's why I went for the college option of 3 years.

I'm sure it will all come to light in the end just wanted some other opinions


thanks!

 

[ezzzekiel]

partp covers domestc work only
if you work for firm then you dont need they do
if you self employed or do works in your own time you need partp
partp is not a qualification
joining nic napit etc means you can certify your own work
if you dont join one of above schemes you need to inform labc before starting any work and pay their fees
some works dont need to be notified at all

 

[Mark.W]

Being Part P registered means you are registered with a scam like NIC, Elecsa or Napit.

You can do minor works without being registered however if you want to take on larger jobs then you will need to register.

Hope this helps!

Mark

 

[jstephens251]

thanks for quick reply!

Ok, lets say someone asks me to add some extra sockets in there kitchen, some outside lights and wants a certificate. If i was Part P registered I would still need to notify the work before and after completion? Any idea of what the fee would be?

 

[Phil]

if you was part p reg you would just do the work and then log onto the scheme providers website after pay your £3 or there abouts and fill in the address deatils etc. job done registered and the home owner gets a cert through the post a few weeks afetr

 

[jstephens251]

if you was part p reg you would just do the work and then log onto the scheme providers website after pay your £3 or there abouts and fill in the address deatils etc. job done registered and the home owner gets a cert through the post a few weeks afetr

thanks for reply. so I i was Part P registered only and not with Nic i could still do the work, pay the fee and certificates would follow? what about the testing then, i take it you need 2391 to be able to do this?

 

[Jabbajaws]

Hi there,

im also 2330 Lvl III qualified with the 17th as well.

Alot of confusion stems from Part P. Alot of people think that its a qualification, but its not. Its a building regulation.

The building regs were brought into effect in 2005, whereas the 17th edition (our magic red bible) came later in 2008.

The building regs are statutory so must be followed.

The 17th Edition is non-statutory, and whereas following it to the letter will keep you on the right side of the law, judgement can be applied and sometimes certain things can be omitted or deviated from, if there is a perfectly good reason, and provided that it is safe to do so.

Basically if part p says it must be done, then you must do whatever is required under this reg, or you face being fined..

If the 17th says it must be done, you can apply judgement. A common one is that consumer units must be accessible, but l know from experience, that aint always possible.

If a customer is having a new consumer unit fitted by you, they are probably 9 times out of 10 going to want it where the old one was. If putting the new one where the old was breaks a reg in the 17th, and your customer will not allow you to relocate the CU, then you have deviated from the regs and would need to document it on youre EIC.

Because of the building regs being introduced, even qualified sparkys are now required to be registered with a competent person scheme provider. NAPIT are supposed to be the cheapest and l have had them recommended by several friends.

Once you are registered and have performed and passed the assessment that is required for competence, you will be ablr to sign off your own work under document part p...

Hope that helps...

 

[ezzzekiel]

if you are partp approved then you are a member of a scheme like napit or nic and can carry out any electrical work and give certificates.

if you are not partp then you need the council to inspect your work and issue certificate (there is a payment due for this option)

2391 is not needed to join a scheme but competence in testing is