Pat testing a fixed appliance

[Delboy247]

Can someone shed some light on this would be great, with pat testing how can you test a fixed appliance such as a hob or oven wired directly in to an outlet, as it hasn't got a 3 pin plug to plug in the tester,I'm all new to this pat testing lark cheers in advance.

 

[telectrix]

IR test with your MFT. be careful not to put 500V across L/N as this will probably goose the electronics.

 

[i=p/u]

just give it visual if you dont have competance to take off the wall.... and note that to client

 

[Patman]

Apart from "Visuals" - if you have a Supernova then you can carry out an "in-situ" earth bond test. Although test current is only 100mA it at least tells you appliance is earthed - and therefor an earth fault condition won't be passed through some unsuspecting individual.

 

[vernam616]

PAT - PORTABLE Appliance Test

I presume the oven and hob arn't portable?

 

[helen666]

Hi Guys,
You do not need to PAT test a fixed appliance firstly. Visual inspection is more than ok.

 

[Silly Sausage]

The phrase 'Portable Appliance Testing' should be outlawed.
If it's connected to the fixed wiring, by a plug or connection unit, it should be tested (in my book anyway).

Code of Practice - IET Electrical

 

[vernam616]

Would be classed as "Electrical applicance safety test"

 

[Patman]

There's no "classed" about it. Its just "In-service Inspection and Testing of Electrical Equipment" - IAW IEE Code of Practice 3rd Edition.

 

[Adam W]

Ah this old favourite.
Yes a cooker should be tested, as should all other appliances be they portable, fixed, moveable, handheld, or whatever.
Just because a customer may have (wrongly) asked for 'a PAT Test' they won't be expecting you to only test one category of equipment and to have to get someone else in to test the rest.

 

[the pat man]

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[Patman]

Oi !! What you doing copying (almost) my user name ??

 

[oldtimer]

Just started a PAT course C&G this week and what is being said is fixed wiring is covered by a PIR everthing connected to it is in service inspection and testing or PAT testing so wall mounted hand driers built in ovens etc

 

[the pict]

Fixed wiring means up to the point of local isolation, But only a plonker would test say a shower up to its pull cord or similar switch during a PIR, appliance tests start at the point after the point of isolation, so plate off, wires out & into a "flying lead" But I always tell a client thats the test, but not at the same rate as a kettle.
Pict

 

[manuluse]

PAT - PORTABLE Appliance Test

I presume the oven and hob arn't portable?

Can you help with this one then?
Our H&S chap carries out the PAT at my works. I recently renewed a .75 flex to a fixed appliance (so why it’s being PAT tested I don’t know). The PAT Tester failed the lead under earth continuity. He says the machine is failing it as it won’t read below .1 ohm. I think he is actually looking at the Earth Bond Test as reading should show less than 0.1+R Ohms (where R is the resistance of the lead). I tested the leads continuity and got .7 ohm from the earth pin on the plug to the casing of the item, which is acceptable. Am I wrong or should he reset his machine?.