Period Inspection: What fault code?

[mattcos1972]

Hey guys,
Doing a periodic, and have found a spur taken off a 30A 2.5mm ring final circuit. The spur feeds 3 sockets in the kitchen that are rarely used for anything but one of them is used for the kettle. The problem being that the spur is wired in 1mm cable! Also this spur spurs off (5A fused this time) to provide under cupboard lighting. All death and energised tests are well within acceptable parameters.

I am inclined to give it a Code 2, and recommend that the cable be replaced with 2.5mm, but would welcome any views.

Cheers in advance.

Matt

 

[DurhamSparky]

replace fuse in FCU with 3/5 amp and code2 with advice to replace cable...!! if they dont understand pick kettle up and replace other side of kitchen..!!

tell customer to not upgrade fuse and place label max 5 amp fuse on FCU

 

[mattcos1972]

replace fuse in FCU with 3/5 amp and code2 with advice to replace cable...!! if they dont understand pick kettle up and replace other side of kitchen..!!

tell customer to not upgrade fuse and place label max 5 amp fuse on FCU

Oy watch it; I'm the customer too, Steve!!

Fuse is already 5A. Cheers chap. I thought it was a code 2, just wanted to make sure I was recording it right on my ever increasing list of faults!!

I'll run a new cable in when I get a free minute...and of course I'll move the kettle.......might just have a cup of tea first though!!

 

[eddielarge]

code 2 is what i think too.

Had a recent callout to a rewire i did last year that the kitchen ring kept blowing the rcd.

when i got there i found that they had wired the hob into the 6mm supply but put a plug top on the 20amp fan assisted oven and pluged it into the socket i had installed next to the cooker supply.

your right the fuse in the plug top should have blown but it didnt it just melted the plug top .

So i would disconnect circuit

 

[mattcos1972]

code 2 is what i think too.

Had a recent callout to a rewire i did last year that the kitchen ring kept blowing the rcd.

when i got there i found that they had wired the hob into the 6mm supply but put a plug top on the 20amp fan assisted oven and pluged it into the socket i had installed next to the cooker supply.

your right the fuse in the plug top should have blown but it didnt it just melted the plug top .

So i would disconnect circuit

Cheers Eddie.
I'm gonna change the cable very shortly. It's outside the scope of what I need to at the moment, and all tests are fine. I have been using the circuit for 6 years with no problems and its not tripping the RCD.
Will all get sorted over next few months.
Cheers again.

Matt

 

[Jason Smith]

Just thinking, can we do a periodic/eic on our own houses?- would it have any legal standing if we were selling the house, renting it out etc, obviously any legal argument would be that we had a vested interest in putting down suitable figures, etc. ? dont know the answer!

 

[eddielarge]

Just thinking, can we do a periodic/eic on our own houses?- would it have any legal standing if we were selling the house, renting it out etc, obviously any legal argument would be that we had a vested interest in putting down suitable figures, etc. ? dont know the answer!

I was always told you couldnt test your own house, not sure of legal reason

 

[Graeme Harrold]

I was always told you couldnt test your own house, not sure of legal reason

Its a bit of an integrity thing, like an MOT inspector cant inspect their own car

 

[Notsosmart]

Its a bit of an integrity thing, like an MOT inspector cant inspect their own car

Hmm Not sure about that, why would you question the integrity of the tester just because it is their own house, I would be just as diligent as it is my own family that could be at risk.
I know you are implying that this is to help sell the house but the process of selling isn't a quick one & yes I know that some one may issue a PIR once the house is sold but there is a signature at the bottom and that means there could be a come-back; so who in their right mind would do this?

 

[Jason Smith]

I totally agree with you mate, who in their right mind would do it. Its precisely because persons do do it (no implication thatyou would at all )that the law has to exist. You put yourself right in the firing line for allegations if something was to happen if you sold or rented and lets say the place burnt down, all the evidence that could defend you would be destroyed. You would be stood up in court trying to get someone to believe you.
I am of course not implying you are selling or renting, just raising a possible issue if you are,to protect you. there is nothing to preven t you doing a periodic on your own house, as no one can suffer a loss from it should there be a problem. I accept and agree everything you say. Hope you can see my point, and anyway, like I say dont know if its legal or not, or rather if the certificate would be valid.

 

[mattcos1972]

Hey guys,
Sorry I haven't put any input into this thread for a while.....I am not getting notified by email about updates to threads I am subscribed to so I didn't realise all this chat had been going on.

Although I am not sure about the the legal question posed, I have spoke to the NICEIC with regards to working on / Certificating etc my own property as part of the assessment for my acceptance into their scheme and they have told me that working on my own place is fine (in fact very common). As the work is certifiable (and I am not yet Part P) the LABC guy will be putting the final signature on the reports / certificates anyway.

 

[Notsosmart]

Thanks for clearing that up Matt

 

[mattcos1972]

Thanks for clearing that up Matt

You're welcome chap. Sorry it took so long!

 

[Graeme Harrold]

Just noticed my emails have dried up too, will have to go hunting for that open circuit now..........

 

[InSafeHands]

I got worried then. I'm just about to do PIR's on 3 properties that I rent out.

I've always had them done by a local company (they are miles from where I live) but they're trying to pull a fast one and charge a fortune for work that doesn't need doing, so am going to do them myself next week