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ok i am confused by other posts on here I have to complete a PIR on a house for rental. The client will not pay for me to have apart every switch, light, socket. What do I do what do you do. Do you check a percentage of accesories fittings and write that percentage down as a limitation? Do you do a loop test at end of line only on radial circuits if so is this a limitation. Please help differing advice on here. Any example pir would be appreciated
 
You agree with the customer the extent of the test.
Zs is only needed at the end of a radial circuit as that will be it's highest reading, faulty or degrading accessories apart.
No offence mate, but I hope you've got the correct insurance for doing PIR's as these are very basic questions you're asking.
 
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johnny i do have correct insurance yes. I know they may be basic to you however I have recently gone out on my own but I havent done any pereiodics for myself before i know gs3 says a minimum of 10% and to test radials at extent but this is only recommended so does it need to be recorded in limitations
 
Record the % of the test as a limitation yes, but Zs on a radial 'must' be at the extent so that's a requirement not a limitation.
Think about a lighting circuit, there may be continuity at one fitting but none at the last fitting so it's pointless not doing it at the last fitting.
 
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you can only do what he is prepared to pay for. if you are unhappy with limiting the test/inspection, walk away. if you are prepared to do a limited test/inspection , make sure it is entered on cert. and get client to sign for the extent of the inspection.
 
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Agree an initial 'sampleing' amount of say 25% of accessories inspected and record this as a limitation.

Depending on what you find on this initial sampleing amount you may need to increase it BUT, make the customer fully aware of this.
 
i did read that right however it seems strange as say for a lighting circuit you may have metal switches with no earth as you have only tested furthest point be it switch or light fitting
 
Good answer johnny , periodics are not easy they need alot of experiance to carry out , and ill be honest i will walk away from an inspection if some one only wants me to do a visual , as to me thats not an inspection , i 100 % agree with lenny on inspecting the light switches which are metal i will always do at least 25% of the light switches and 25 % of the socket out lets and a full test of the installation ,that is R1&R2 of every radial circuit continuity of all final ring circuits plus the R1&R2 of them and an IR test of all circuits followed by the Zs and RCD tests where applicable and a ramp test of the RCD's , a periodic is an inspection to determin the condition of the installation , if you short change the testing you could be missing serious defects , the limitations box has its limitations if you see what i mean , there are way to many in out inspection done these days
 
thanks nick and i agree thats why I am seeking advice before I jump into it as I havent done any for myself before always worked for other people who did the periodics. What I am saying is if you do a 25% check of each accessory as agreed and all the witches are metal what then check all of the switches? The actual testing I always test every circuit fully as advised in gn3. Additional question for r1+r2 and zs on radial you take this from the furthest point what would be your procedure if there appeared to be multiple end of lines test each and record highest would be my resolve
 

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