Pir first or not

[2k2]

Hi
all I have a customer who ask asked me to do a cu change, but they do not want to pay for a pir , so am i right in saying that if i change the board i only become responsible for the board not the existing circuits,as it's all been done diy and looks a mess.
and when i do a EI cert i test the supply, Zs,and Rcd.
My main concern is where to list the none compliant items in the house if they dont want a pir?

 

[m4tty]

Google best practice guide consumer unit change and pick top one which is niceic website. There's a chart which you should follow which tells you to do a pre work survey if they won't have a pir done. This will give you all answers what you are looking for mate

 

[Yooj]

Here's the link http://www.esc.org.uk/pdfs/business-and-community/electrical-industry/BPG6_09.pdf.

Personally, whether the customer wants a PIR or not, you should do one, and any final-circuit, supply and earthing/bonding issues should be identified and costs provided for rectification prior to doing the CCU change.

Let's face it, you change the CCU without doing a PIR, and if issues arise, straight away the client will say: 'it was fine before it was changed, therefore you must have caused the fault''

There are some safety show-stoppers as well, such as lighting circuits without CPC which have class 1 fittings, and a customer unwilling to change these to class 2.

Yooj

 

[ian.settle1]

You should do a PIR before you change the board in case of any faults which maybe apparant if not they could blame you for the fault so if they don't want a PIR then get them to sign a disclaimer saying you are not responsible for any faults that may arise eg shared neutrals on lighting circuits etc causing the RCD to trip when you switch on after the DB has been changed.

 

[2k2]

Thank you for all your advice that helps me out and covers my back

 

[mogga]

couldnt you price it like CU change including PIR ? as I have only done commercial I would want to do full PIR before doing anything as has been said before "It was working before you touched it" wouldnt stand up if a PIR threw something up