Plasterboard ceiling fixing solutions

[bontjack]

I intend replacing a pendant light fitting with a new light and fan unit (heavy weight), however the screws of the pendant were only fixed into plasterboard and not into the joist because the wiring exited the plasterboard in between the two joists.

The plasterboard is not going to support the weight of the new light fitting even with the expanding raw plugs..

What is the best solution for fixing the heavy light fitting at this point, as I cannot repoisition the wiring over to the joist as the ceiling is artexed.

Any ideas, solutions that i could use or try?

Thanks

 

[Octopus]

Can you get at the lighting point from the room above?

 

[nikmet]

only safe way is to fix a wooden batton between the two joists and drill a hole through it for your cable, by fix , i mean with decent wood screws, hope this helps, cls timber would be ideal for the batton.

 

[hasel5]

Artex ceiling asbestos go carefull

 

[i=p/u]

them fan thingys do some wobbiling after while , you need a nogin sir!

 

[bontjack]

There is access in the roof space above, but the is three layers of insulation with each layer running at 90 degrees to the previous. the joists are completely covered over and there little room to manoeuver around.
Therefore getting across the attic trying to find each joist to step on would be difficult and high risk of a misshap!

wooden batten it is then, just hoping there was another solution without having to go into the attic..

 

[hasel5]

arrrgh

 

[topquark]

Not much choice but to go into the attic. If it's a heavy load (which it appears to be) .. a noggin would probably do. If it's too heavy (or deosn't have an easy fixing point, as happens occasionally) then a bit of ply between adjacent joists with a bit of noggin attached beneath the ply.

 

[Octopus]

The attic it is then... at least you can get to it!

Suggest you wear rubber gloves and a mask!

 

[kevben]

At least you don't have to move furniture & lift floor boards etc... I know exactly what your facing as i've just spent 2 days doing the same. Can't think of any other option other than sending your lad in (if you have one).

 

[i=p/u]

them spiral fixings hold 15kg on vertical, dont know about a ceiling

 

[topquark]

them spiral fixings hold 15kg on vertical, dont know about a ceiling

Not in my experience they don't! They are often good for making a better fixing with existing fittings (where some numpty has just used a screw (plasterboard or otherwise) into the plasterboard ceiling to attach an accessory). However!! They don't take a lot of weight

 

[i=p/u]

i could imagine 'yes happydays fans up ' turn it on then.........

 

[midgetman]

it needs to be into a noggin - if you can get to it above then that is the best answer. Just bang a few noggins in - use 3 by 2 or 4 by 2 and for the fitting use some decent length screws

 

[Octopus]

nice big noggin from above, screws from each adjacent "beam". That'll do!