Possibilities of being hired?

[reddish]

Hi guys, I was just wondering; In terms of qualifications, would having the 17th edition 2382 & Inspection & Testing 2391 be good enough to land me a job in the industry? Because that is what I am training to do and probably all I can afford to take (2330 parts 1 & 2 cost in the region of around £3000!)

Also I will hopefully try and gain some experience whilst taking these exams by hopefully getting some unpaid work experience with an electrical company.

So will the 17th Edition, 2391 & some form of electrical work experience be enough qualifications or should I also be forking out around £3000 for the 2330?

Thanks.

 

[telectrix]

get your ecs card. it's only £35 and you won't get on site without it. send cv to every agency you can think of with your quals. the experience on site will stand you in good stead for future employment. experience is more use than 2330. by passing 2391, it's obvious you know what you're doing,

 

[johnboy6083]

you will definately need the 2330 or other electrical technical cert in my opinion, as well as NVQ3 if youn want to do more than just domestic, andif you want to be graded by the JIB.


The reason i dont think you need NVQ3 for domestic, is that being JIB registered isnt asked for, unlike commercial and industrial, which ask 95% of the time.

 

[reddish]

Hmmmm okay, maybe I'll look into doing the 2330 if I have to but it costs sooo much! I'll also definitely get myself an ecs card.

Another thing, how hard do you think it will be for me to find unpaid work? As it's so hard to find anything at the moment.

 

[Des 56]

About 2000 years ago people in Britain were doing unpaid work for the Romans
The only difference between now and then is that, they at least had their food and accomodation supplied

By all means get experience,but I find this trend of giving servitude for no monetary reward a bit disturbing to say the least
Anybody actually taking up these offers and paying nothing to people trying to succeed in this terrible economic climate ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves

 

[reddish]

Well to be honest it's my only option and the only way I am going to be able to get ANY form of experience, heck, I would love to get PAID experience but, realistically thats just not going to happen. Although if you have any ideas as to how to get experience which involves me earning some form of money then please, be my guest, I'm all ears.

 

[rick.oshea]

Well to be honest it's my only option and the only way I am going to be able to get ANY form of experience, heck, I would love to get PAID experience but, realistically thats just not going to happen. Although if you have any ideas as to how to get experience which involves me earning some form of money then please, be my guest, I'm all ears.

Hi Reddish,

Having just finished the 2330 myself, I would recommend you go for it if you can - It costs around £500 per year but financial support is available through the colleges for people who are not working. There are also grants which can help you out with books & essentials. Attached to the colleges are normally some kind of training organisation who may also be able to help you. They can sometimes find work placements which pay a misely £50 a week (but better than doing it for nowt!! ) This route would then give you experience and would allow you to follow the full 2330 with a full apprentiship / NVQ 3.

You can start the 2330 Yr 1 & 2 without a work placement..... this could hopefully allow you to start the course and the find work along the way - you will need to be in work within the industry however by year 3 to fully qualify and do your NVQ3 & AM2. If its of interest, you need to put your A@~e into gear, as the 2330 is to be replaced (it was planned for this year but I know has been postponed in most colleges). The replacement for the 2330 however will require you to be in work within the industry at the start, so not as easy to get on it and not as good a structure - I hope that helps.......

 

[VoltzElectrical]

£3000 for the 2330? Not at a local college methinks. These are training provider costs. The 2330 is, as has already been pointed out, being phased out. I don't know if you'll be accepted on the 2391 at college without the 2330.

top advice as has already been stated is to get your ecs card, and get started on site as a labourer, or preferably a mate. Then you can get on the new 2357 when it comes about. Either that or try to do the 2330 in the evenings at your local college. It will cost WAY less. Look up your local colleges that do engineering courses and give the department a ring. They'll be able to tell you what they are offering in September. And don't forget to get your name down now.

Working for free? erm.. if you offer it, you might get your hand bitten off, so be careful.

good luck and persevere if it's what you REALLY want.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

What background/ experience do you have, and what do you ultimately want to do?

 

[rmc86uk]

It's good that you want to work for free but I don't think it'd last very long. It's bad enough blokes working forty hour weeks and getting paid ****e! I'm sure after a week you'd be thinking god this is hard work and I'm doing it for absolute nothing!

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[Electricalserv]

If you want to do Domestic you don't need 2357. Nor do you need a JIB card as pointed out. If you want to do heavy commercial & industrial then go down the 2357 and JIB route if not swerve it.

17th, 2391, 2330 and couple of years experience will do you fine for domestic and light commercial.

And also don't need 2330 to get on 2391 course as someone mentioned above. Just the 2382

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I think I actually said i wasn't sure if he would or wouldn't. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

About 2000 years ago people in Britain were doing unpaid work for the Romans
The only difference between now and then is that, they at least had their food and accomodation supplied

By all means get experience,but I find this trend of giving servitude for no monetary reward a bit disturbing to say the least
Anybody actually taking up these offers and paying nothing to people trying to succeed in this terrible economic climate ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves

Couldn't agree more Des. I personally wouldn't have the front to have someone graft for me and not give them a wage.

Cheers..........Howard

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I think you'll find it's the 2330 OR the 2357. The 2357 is in the pipeline to replace the 2330 and will include the NVQ 3.

 

[MUintraining]

Hi, you mention 2330 but that has now been replaced by 2357. City and Guilds are allowing those already on 2330 to complete the course but no new entrants. The 2357 is a NVQ work based type qualification taking 3 years part time and you need to be able to work in the industry for your practical exams. 2391 - its very unlikely you will pass this not working in the industry - I am doing second year 2330 and at my college only 32% passed the 2391 (level 3 Inspection and Testing), the 17th Edition just means to understand the regs. You are far better off doing formal electrical training ie 2357 rather than short add on courses like 2391 and 17th Edition - hope this helps.