Potential slash of Feed-In Tariff (FITs) - What does this mean for MCS installers?

[SRE]

Re: Potential slash of Feed-In Tariff (FITs) - What does this mean for MCS installers

OMG - what a mess! More boom and bust strategies!

 

[TedM]

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Not sure yet if I agree with the findings. Have to run some figures through a spreadsheet. Will try to get time later.

 

[SolarCity]

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I was talking with my colleague about this earlier. We both agreed that a cut of 20%-30% on the FITs would see a Hell of a lot of firms winding up - that can't be a good thing. The government has made a pledge to be the greenest government ever. And they sodding need to be as well.

There is a bigger picture here and while I agree that it is unfortunate that the lowest income families will ultimately pay for it, the FIT is a necessity.

 

[MorganPVI]

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I distrust articles like this, they bang on about the FiT then start using ROC figures.

In some ways it is unfair that everyone has to pay for the FiT, but when you consider Wind Farms being paid £600K + to switch off for a day I have no effing sympathy at all, who ever is running these schemes need to get their prioties in order.

 

[Markc]

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Dave Sowden, chief of the Micropower Council, the trade body for the sector. Once the renewable energy equipment has been installed, the owner is entitled to feed-in tariffs for as long as it generates electricity, unless the government changes the rules in future.


You would expect the chief of the Micropower Council (WWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!) to know about the 25 year time scale wouldn't you?

Same old blar blar blar................or have I missed something?

 

[Tiberius]

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Been to a NIC training centre yesterday and was speaking to someone there about this, he said he expects the money to be slashed for larger systems and cut by 3p or 4p for ones aimed at domestic. He said the money issue is a bit of a worry but by cutting it for large systems and businesses it will continue to be maintained for few more years.

But his main other reasons were the fact that we are struggling for power as it is, dont know about other area's but the east midland DNO are putting 80A fuses in any new houses and have been doing so for over a year. If the country doesnt do something now then there will be a lot worse problem in 10-20yrs where the government could end up paying for all new energy works just to keep homes powered.

There has only been 68000 installations according to their database and i assume thats not all domestic. He said to him thats not alot and without getting it into houses and it being the norm so to speak then the industry wont survive or become cheap and good enough for people to do it off their own backs in 5 years time etc.

He pretty much said same thing with gas and how its being distributed at its limit but heat pumps are for another time.

Just thought share that from a view of an NIC MCS guy, not a spokesperson or rep etc.

 

[malcolmsanford]

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The problem is though PV is not a viable option for future energy sources in the UK unless we are going to accept a lifestyle that drastically reduces it's dependencies and how we use our Electricity.

I don't have the figures to hand but I would be amazed if I was wrong, but the highest demand in the UK for electricity I would imagine is in the winter. When we have short cold days and longer colder nights. PV is not going to be very productive during this period and I would be amazed that it would cover 10% of the demand required, even if every house in the UK had it installed.

I agree green energy is vital, but tidal or wind is surely more sensible, winter, summer, spring or Autumn day or night we have the tidal system and surely developing this would be more cost efficient. Wind though not as reliant as tides must surely again be more reliant than PV.

Unfortunately the last government made promise that really we can not keep, not at the moment. The only sensible alternative solution is nuclear power or a derivative of it. We had a major Earthquake in Japan that seriously compromised a nuclear power plant and the outcome was not the doom laden scenario the tree huggers would want us to imagine.

Every source of energy as risks or shortcomings, but some have more advantages than others.

 

[Tiberius]

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I agree with you but the point is if we dont do something now we will run out sooner rather than later, we cant sit around and wait until the technology is good enough. Lets face it, none of the technologies available now are good enough.

Like you say wind is unreliable and if not alot of wind then very expensive to the energy returned. water cost a fortune and lots of time to put in place, install, etc. not alot of sun for PV all year round. heat pumps are not unreliable (from what i heard) and expensive at the moment. solar hot water doesnt work in winter. Biomass is too big for most buildings at the moment.

Next years budget for green energy is £360m, have to see where it ends up going.

 

[PAGE Renewable]

Re: Potential slash of Feed-In Tariff (FITs) - What does this mean for MCS installers

FYI This weeks moneysavingexpert newsletter has this:-

Update: 18 Oct 2011. Free solar subsidy could be slashed

We've heard strong industry rumours the rules may soon change, so if you want solar (free or bought), go quick.

The Government may be due to cut feed-in payments by 50%+ for those installing after 31 March '12, though changes are unlikely to affect those already signed up. If you want to take advantage, hurry, as it takes time to sort and could spell curtains for free solar.

 

[AIM]

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Winter high pressure = very dry, no wind & very cold.

The only constant sources appear to have gravity involved [tide/hydro & deep geo-thermal].