Prices per circuit

[nicsin02]

Hi guys, for youse guys out there that price testing work, how much do you charge per circuit? i think to charch £15 - £20 per circuit but a company from down south has started to steal some of our work with £7.50 per circuit, our gaffer has started to price jobs at £7.49 per circuit just so we have work and we have noticed that its putting far too much pressure on us testers, anybody else having such problems, cheers

 

[AIM]

I've read NAPIT suggest average of 45 minutes [0.75 hours] per circuit. That is an average for domestic circuits. Time saved on simple circuits, cooker, shower etc... will be taken on complex circuits, RFC, radial sockets and lighting.

Any pressure to compromise safety must be put in writing to your supervisor/manager/employer. It is not easy, I've been there. I've also represented people at Tribunal claiming unfair dismissal after breaches of safety procedures.

Always remember an employer can only act upon information available. If they have not been formally notified, they have no duty to act, because they can say thet were not aware of the matter!

 

[mackers]

you can,t possibly make any cash with them rates thats gotta be less than there paying you an hour?

 

[nicsin02]

you can,t possibly make any cash with them rates thats gotta be less than there paying you an hour?

weve been told 15mins a circuit MAXIMUM :-(

 

[mackers]

BONKERS! cant be done ive spent far longer than that just finding out what the circuit does! lol

 

[Billynm]

*** Com*l?ance have a min circuit target of 37 circuits per day, if you don't hit the target your down the road, testing is done on the computer!!!. So i hear .........

 

[johnboy6083]

Not a chance! I've had sockets that have taken ages to put back on!
Theres no way in hell they are doing their jobs properly. I would point blank refuse to work like that. It makes my blood boil!

 

[mackers]

thats easy if your making results up!

 

[Billynm]

thats easy if your making results up!

EXACTLY........ someones going to get hurt, & guess what?, it won't be the companys fault....

 

[Farmelectrics]

this is were its all going wrong are eicr are turning into the pat testeting con yes £18 £20 per circut is correct and yes 30-40 mins per circut is quite normal if your doing them correctly however these companies will go for the cheapest quote after all theve got the certs to show there insurance companies that its been done not right but its happening more and more

 

[Octopus]

£7.50 per circuit. the report wouldn't be worth the paper its written on, and I'm saying that as a sole trader. As for a ltd company doing them for these prices - its a receipe for going bust.

 

[Farmelectrics]

murdoch its happening companys just doing live tests and visuals calculating the dead tests and just presuming the ir is ok cos it hasnt tripped the breaker wouldnt put my name to this but theres plenty who will just to make a quick buck

 

[UNG]

I just wonder how cheap an EICR can go as this now appears to be following the PAT pricing model. I don't see where you can make the money to cover the overheads at £7.50 / circuit doing it properly. As posted earlier there are companies are setting targets of 37 circuits / day and 15 minutes / circuit the operatives working for these companies are certainly putting themselves in the firing line if something that should have been found isn't and a fatality happens. Going at the base level of a 10% sample check of accessories there is no time for all the tests and documentation at 10 - 15 mins / circuit

This is where this thread loops back to the question of qualification and competence of both the tester and the company and/or person setting the targets. Given the current economic situation and the influx of newly trained electrical operatives (carefully chosen wording) looking for employment / experience chasing that elusive £50K they where promised and the bean counters looking to increase business and maximise there take is it any wonder that this industry is falling ever deeper into the abyss all with the previous governments legislated blessing (trying not to mention a particular section of the building regs) and the bodies they sanctioned to police it. I suppose it shows the desperation of the industry when people are are left with no alternative to work for these companies to earn a crust and putting their name to a document that could give them a stay in one of Her Majesty's Hotels if they are found to have been negligent in carrying out an inspection should an accident or fatality occur

I can only assume when prices are being driven down to this level these companies are looking to make the money back on rectifying defects assuming they have the time to find any

As an example of what some companies are at about 12 months ago a mate of mine had a PAT testing company contact him who offered a price for testing X number of appliances for a fixed price at one of his premises and offered to throw in a free socket safety check which involved using one of the plug in socket checkers how many people could or would be taken in by this as a definitive check of the condition of the socket installation

 

[Farmelectrics]

ung totally agree with what you say the companies arnt bothered if it comes back at them theyll just point the finger at the fool who has signed the cert

 

[Engineer54]

weve been told 15mins a circuit MAXIMUM :-(

Ask your ''gaffer'' as you call him to lead by example, and to show you how you can thoroughly test to EICR requirements, say a FRC in 15 minutes Max!!! If he can't do it, then he can't expect anyone else too either!!